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From: 91761246@32635.com
Subject: 40 Million Email Leads $295 + Bonuses
Date: Mon, 02 Feb 98 22:45:36 EST
Source: Sound Digest Archive v01.n180

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> 
> 
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> 
>
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> 
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From: Dave Stagner <dstagner@icarus.net>
Subject: 417A operating points, et al
Date: Mon, 15 Jun 1998 09:42:03 -0500 (CDT)
Source: Sound Digest Archive v01.n311

Whaddaya say, kids?  Where do YOU like to run the 417A, and why?  Better
yet, what's a good, clean method for tweaking the bias?

Here's my situation... i'm using a single 417A at 160v, with 2.4v battery
bias via stacked AA NiCads on the cathode.  The load is a 10k:10kct
interstage transformer (a fairly hefty little thing rated for 30ma dc... 
and cheap, too!).  This drives push-pull 6B4Gs.  Yeah, i know this input
can't swing enough voltage to really max out the 6B4Gs, but it was simple
to build and i don't need all that much power.

Anyway, what sort of operating points have others found useful?  And is
there a good way (say, with a pot) to adjust battery bias on the cathodes?
Or perhaps some recommended cathode resistor values?

Finally, any suggestions for an alternative driver tube that would work
well with cathode bias and the 10k interstage, to drive push-pull 6V6
(triode wired)?  I plan on making a variant of this amp for a friend. 
He's a non-techie, poor, and will be moving away soon.  I'd like to build
a similar amp for him out of junk parts, and 6V6 is what i have.  :}
However, i'd like to use regular cathode bias rather than battery bias for
his amp, just so there is one less thing that can go wrong.  

Oh, and some of you may be interested in the IT i'm using... it's
Allied Electronics #705-0862, $14.89 each.  10k:10kct, 30madc, "2 watts".
It seems to ring a little on the high end, but i loaded it with a couple
of 270k resistors and that seemed to fix the problem.  I *really* like the
sound of this amp!  It's nothing fancy at all, mostly junk parts, 417A
through the IT driving push-pull 6B4Gs running low and hot.  It's a very
coherent, musical amp, not hi-fi at all.  

- -dave

Practice beautiful randomness and act kind of senseless.
<dstagner@icarus.net>


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From: Roscoe Primrose <roscoe@aiko.com>
Subject: Re: 417A operating points, et al
Date: Mon, 15 Jun 1998 13:21:31 -0400
Source: Sound Digest Archive v01.n311

Dave Stagner wrote:
> 
> Whaddaya say, kids?  Where do YOU like to run the 417A, and why?  Better
> yet, what's a good, clean method for tweaking the bias?
> 
> Here's my situation... i'm using a single 417A at 160v, with 2.4v battery
> bias via stacked AA NiCads on the cathode.  The load is a 10k:10kct
> interstage transformer (a fairly hefty little thing rated for 30ma dc...
> and cheap, too!).  This drives push-pull 6B4Gs.  Yeah, i know this input
> can't swing enough voltage to really max out the 6B4Gs, but it was simple
> to build and i don't need all that much power.
> 
> Anyway, what sort of operating points have others found useful?  And is
> there a good way (say, with a pot) to adjust battery bias on the cathodes?
> Or perhaps some recommended cathode resistor values?\

I'm running the 417A/5842 at approx. 160V with a 75R Caddock as a
cathode resistor, bypassed with a 3500uf Elna, for about 20mA, direct
coupled to a 45.  Operating point seems nearly ideal, have played with
more/less current amd been less happy, especially with less, more seemed
pretty OK up to about 25mA, but I went with 20mA mostly beacause I had
the 75R Caddocks...  I've used the same operating point with the same
Allied ITs you're using, driving SE 2A3s and 45s, and that seemed the
best operating point with the ITs as well.

> 
> Finally, any suggestions for an alternative driver tube that would work
> well with cathode bias and the 10k interstage, to drive push-pull 6V6
> (triode wired)?  I plan on making a variant of this amp for a friend.
> He's a non-techie, poor, and will be moving away soon.  I'd like to build
> a similar amp for him out of junk parts, and 6V6 is what i have.  :}
> However, i'd like to use regular cathode bias rather than battery bias for
> his amp, just so there is one less thing that can go wrong.
> 

You might try the 5687...

Peace
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http://www.aiko.com/roscoe
     
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In the strangest of places if you look at it right." Robert Hunter

"640K ought to be enough for anybody" , Bill Gates, 1981


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From: "David Ball" <dball@esper.com>
Subject: Re: 417A operating points, et al
Date: Mon, 15 Jun 1998 14:19:52 -0400
Source: Sound Digest Archive v01.n311

>Dave Stagner wrote:
>>
>> Whaddaya say, kids?  Where do YOU like to run the 417A, and why?

 And Roscoe added:



>I'm running the 417A/5842 at approx. 160V with a 75R Caddock as a
>cathode resistor, bypassed with a 3500uf Elna, for about 20mA, direct
>coupled to a 45

I'm running 417A/5842 transformer coupled to 45, and I settled on a very
similar operating point.  I'm running 160V with 75 ohm cathode resistor and
bypassed with 2200uF.  I tried other operating points and various bypass/no
bypass, but everything fell together at the 20mA/160V levels.

Dave


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From: Dave Stagner <dstagner@icarus.net>
Subject: Re: 417A operating points, et al
Date: Mon, 15 Jun 1998 16:27:01 -0500 (CDT)
Source: Sound Digest Archive v01.n311

Looks like i should scrounge up some 75R resistors and big bypass caps,
then... 

Like i said, i don't want to do battery bias on my friend's amp for
reliability reasons.  I won't always be there to fix it, and he doesn't
understand electronics.  I could use the 5687, but the only ones i have
are 4 7119s that i'd like to save for something else.  Also, the mu is a
bit low for good sensitivity at full power. I thought of the 6DJ8 too, but
it seems somehow unfashionable... :}

- -dave

Practice beautiful randomness and act kind of senseless.
<dstagner@icarus.net>


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From: Grover Gardner <groverg@postoffice.att.net>
Subject: Re: 417A operating points, et al
Date: Mon, 15 Jun 1998 17:26:54 -0500
Source: Sound Digest Archive v01.n311

At 9:42 AM -0500 6/15/98, Dave Stagner wrote:

>Finally, any suggestions for an alternative driver tube that would work
>well with cathode bias and the 10k interstage, to drive push-pull 6V6
>(triode wired)?  I plan on making a variant of this amp for a friend.
>He's a non-techie, poor, and will be moving away soon.  I'd like to build
>a similar amp for him out of junk parts, and 6V6 is what i have.  :}
>However, i'd like to use regular cathode bias rather than battery bias for
>his amp, just so there is one less thing that can go wrong.

Dave a friend of mine just loaned me a pair of 5992s, a very snazzy mil
version of the 6V6.  I never cared much for the 6V6 as a driver, since it
seemed to lack some body, but these are mighty good-sounding.  Perhaps
using one as a triode-wired driver?

Grover


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From: Roscoe Primrose <roscoe@aiko.com>
Subject: 421A Data
Date: Sun, 11 Oct 1998 01:07:35 -0400
Source: Sound Digest Archive v01.n449

Anyone have data sheets on-line/e-mailable (DP - is that a word?)?

Peace
- -- 
Roscoe Primrose 
- -- mailto:roscoe@aiko.com -- http://www.aiko.com/roscoe --
     
"Once in a while you get shown the light
In the strangest of places if you look at it right." Robert Hunter


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From: Roscoe Primrose <roscoe@aiko.com>
Subject: 437A Specs
Date: Fri, 08 May 1998 23:39:21 -0400
Source: Sound Digest Archive v01.n273

Look at the IHT page off of:

http://www.vt52.com/jim/

For specsheets on the 437A

Peace
- --
Roscoe Primrose
- -- mailto:roscoe@aiko.com -- http://www.aiko.com/roscoe --

"Once in a while you get shown the light
In the strangest of places if you look at it right." Robert Hunter


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From: "Ken Dangerfield" <bpyakd@mail.island.net>
Subject: Re: 45 Amp
Date: Thu, 12 Mar 1998 04:35:36 -0800
Source: Sound Digest Archive v01.n215

You definitely need to talk to Grover.  He's been down this path in 
detail before.

Regards,
Ken Dangerfield

 On 12 Mar 98 Bill Ceruzzi said:
 
>     I'm putting together a 45 SE amp and want to try a 76 tube for the =
> input. I know that the gain will be low if I just use two stages (76 to =
> 45), but that is not a problem for my application. Anyone have any =
> thoughts on setting up the 76 stage?


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From: "Bill Ceruzzi" <wceruzzi@ntplx.net>
Subject: 45 Amp
Date: Thu, 12 Mar 1998 18:07:53 -0500
Source: Sound Digest Archive v01.n215

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    I'm putting together a 45 SE amp and want to try a 76 tube for the =
input. I know that the gain will be low if I just use two stages (76 to =
45), but that is not a problem for my application. Anyone have any =
thoughts on setting up the 76 stage?

        TIA    Bill (wceruzzi@ntplx.net)

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From: dslagle@earthlink.net (dave slagle)
Subject: Re: 45 Amp
Date: Thu, 12 Mar 1998 19:18:26 -0500
Source: Sound Digest Archive v01.n215

>Hi Joes,
>
>    I'm putting together a 45 SE amp and want to try a 76 tube for the input.
>I know that the gain will be low if I just use two stages (76 to 45), but that
>is not a problem for my application. Anyone have any thoughts on setting up
>the 76 stage?


you could look at the reichert flesh and blood... and use 2- 76's in place
of the sn-7 for a 45 and get a cool look!!! lose the first stage if you
don't really need the gain.... or better yet how about a 76-1626-45 for all
your low gain needs???

dave


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From: Grover Gardner <groverg@postoffice.att.net>
Subject: Re: 45 Amp
Date: Thu, 12 Mar 1998 22:37:33 -0600
Source: Sound Digest Archive v01.n215

At 4:35 AM -0800 3/12/98, Ken Dangerfield wrote:
>You definitely need to talk to Grover.  He's been down this path in
>detail before.
>
>Regards,
>Ken Dangerfield
>
> On 12 Mar 98 Bill Ceruzzi said:
>
>>     I'm putting together a 45 SE amp and want to try a 76 tube for the =
>> input. I know that the gain will be low if I just use two stages (76 to =
>> 45), but that is not a problem for my application. Anyone have any =
>> thoughts on setting up the 76 stage?

Huh?  Wha?  Well, with a cathode-biased 45 you'd have about 320 volts of B+
to play with.  You want at least 27K for a plate load, so at 3-5mA this
would let you run the 76 anywhere from 180 to 220 volts on the plate.  I'd
be inclined to try direct-coupling the two, with a B+ of 470, minus 300
volts for the 45 (250 Vp + 50 volts bias), leaving you 170 volts for the
plate of the 76 and using a nice high load of 56K.

But why not a 56, or better yet a 27?  These use 2.5 volts filaments, and
might be easier to set up.  Both, IMHO, have a fatter sound than the 76 due
to the beefier filament current.  27s are way cool.


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From: "J. Gordon Rankin" <waudio@cinti.net>
Subject: Re: 45 Amp
Date: Fri, 13 Mar 98 17:08:37 -0500
Source: Sound Digest Archive v01.n217

>  I'm putting together a 45 SE amp and want to try a 76 tube for the 
>input. I know that the gain will be low if I just use two stages (76 to 
>45), but that is not a problem for my application. Anyone have any 
>thoughts on setting up the 76 stage?

Bill the classic design was a single 56 IT (10K-132K) to PP 45.

The best idea I would have would be to use the 76 choke loaded using MQ 
600H choke in the 10ma (use the 76 at about 6-7ma). Then cap couple to 
the 45, choke loaded psw ala Bugle would work great for this.

Presently listening to my new KIR, but I often listen to my dual-mono 
Bugle using VT-52's presently and a 417A input. The KIR's do have that 
extra slam in the bass that I think is something that I missed for a long 
time. But the romance of the 45 series is by far some of the best. But 
that is only my opinion.

Gordon


=======> Wavelength Audio <=======
mailto:waudio@cinti.net
http://www.wavelengthaudio.com
ph.fx. 513-271-4186 USA


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From: RALPH POWER <POWER.RALPH@epamail.epa.gov>
Subject: 45 amp report - follow up
Date: Wed, 25 Nov 1998 15:58:49 -0500
Source: Sound Digest Archive v01.n503

Hi,

I received the 5K output trannies for my SE45 amp from Jack at Electraprint
last Friday just in time for the weekend, but I didn't get to install them until Sunday
afternoon.  To my surprise, they are quite warm and full sounding with very good 
detail and a great bargain at $150 per pair.  Been enjoying listening to it so much 
this week I haven't had much time to hack on it !    Highly recommended.

I also changed the Radio Shack carbon films on the 5842 grid and cathode resistors
with half watt carbon comps and immediately noticed more tonal color and less bite. 
 I'm beginning to use more and more of them for what they can bring to the sound.
The only place I've had a problem with them is using them as plate resistors in the 5687
linestage.  I had a pair make strange noises there, otherwise no problems and cheap
too (Mouser, 28 cents each).  Those were NOS carbon comp resistors.   

Is it generally not good to use carbon comps in plate circuits or did I just have some
bad luck with the NOS ones?  Can you use carbon comps in phono stages and 
other high gain circuits without noise problems ?  I hope so.

Comments appreciated, 

- - Ralph


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From: "Chris Beck" <cbeck@brewercompany.com>
Subject: Re: 45 amp report - follow up
Date: Wed, 25 Nov 1998 16:16:30 -0600
Source: Sound Digest Archive v01.n504

Hi Ralph,

Glad to hear your trannies work so well.  Jack winds some really nice
stuff.  I've yet to be disappointed (and don't expect to be).

I've heard that carbon comps are to be avoided in phono stages if possible,
mostly from a noise standpoint.  However, there was a LOT of vintage gear
that used them.  I think more modern high tolerance parts that won't drift
all over the place would be preferable.  For less critical applications
(amps, linestages, etc.) I don't see where there would be a problem.  If
you like the sound, go with it.

Chris Beck

See my web page at: http://www.execpc.com/~n9zes/index.htm

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> From: RALPH POWER <POWER.RALPH@epamail.epa.gov>
> To: sound@deliverator.io.com
> Subject: 45 amp report - follow up
> Date: Wednesday, November 25, 1998 2:58 PM
> 
> 
> Hi,
> 
> I received the 5K output trannies for my SE45 amp from Jack at
Electraprint
> last Friday just in time for the weekend, but I didn't get to install
them until Sunday
> afternoon.  To my surprise, they are quite warm and full sounding with
very good 
> detail and a great bargain at $150 per pair.  Been enjoying listening to
it so much 
> this week I haven't had much time to hack on it !    Highly recommended.
> 
> I also changed the Radio Shack carbon films on the 5842 grid and cathode
resistors
> with half watt carbon comps and immediately noticed more tonal color and
less bite. 
>  I'm beginning to use more and more of them for what they can bring to
the sound.
> The only place I've had a problem with them is using them as plate
resistors in the 5687
> linestage.  I had a pair make strange noises there, otherwise no problems
and cheap
> too (Mouser, 28 cents each).  Those were NOS carbon comp resistors.   
> 
> Is it generally not good to use carbon comps in plate circuits or did I
just have some
> bad luck with the NOS ones?  Can you use carbon comps in phono stages and

> other high gain circuits without noise problems ?  I hope so.
> 
> Comments appreciated, 
> 
> - Ralph


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From: Grover Gardner <groverg@bellatlantic.net>
Subject: 46/VV32 amps test
Date: Sat, 25 Oct 1997 03:56:20 -0500
Source: Sound Digest Archive v01.n086

Took my 5691/46/VV32 monoblocks over for a look on a 'scope today, and they
did surprisingly well.  The expected rolloff in the extreme highs, decent
bass response down to 30Hz.  Basically the tech said, "These look fine."
There appeared to be no extreme peaks or over-shoot.  I'm using the primary
of an SE output tranny to load the 46, and the dangling secondaries
probably contribute some ringing.  The inductance on the 46 is too small
(25H--should be 50) and I am running the Magnequest FS030s too hot at the
moment, both of which, if corrected, would improve the bass.  Didn't have
time to check for power output or distortion.  Hooked them up to a set of
efficient three-way, handmade speaks for a listen and they sounded very
good indeed.  Bass, though not as deep as it could be, was tuneful and
tight.  The highs sounded too rolled off, even considering the scope
results.  Replacing the 5691s with a pair of Sylvania 6SL7s corrected the
problem, revealing far more texture in the highs.  I was told the tube
substitution wasn't really expanding the amps' bandwidth--the audible
difference was more a factor of the different tube's dynamic handling of
various frequencies.  With the Sylvanias the *perceived* rolloff was
minimized.

I was very happy with the test, and I think I'll "finalize" these amps on
good chassis--with some Magnequest 60ma/50H plate chokes and, eventually, a
more tolerant OPT for the VV32s.  I'd like to try Mikey's 502s.

Grant asked last night about direct-coupling verses cap coupling.  I did
try reverting to a cap between the 6SL7 and the 46, while keeping the
choke-loading on the 46.  It was better than a regular resistor load on the
46, but still MUCH less satisfying than the direct-coupled approach.

If anyone's interested I could draw out a schematic, though there's nothing
original about the circuit, just ideas from various other designs.  With a
common 480vdc power supply at about 100-120ma and nothing unobtainium in
the parts roster, it's a cool project and an alternative to the CHS circuit
Jean-Philip called our attention to.  Naturally a 300B could be used in
place of the VV32.  It has the fleetness of the direct-coupled 6SN7 circuit
I was using previously, with the addition of much more body and texture in
the music.  Another advantage is that this circuit works very well as a
direct-input amp.  The only variable would seem to be finding a 6SL7 which
provides the preferred tonal balance for the input.  If someone wanted to
do a 2A3/6B4G version, they could substitute a 71A for the 46 and retain
the direct-coupling and choke-loaded driver.  Thanks for the BW!

Grover Gardner
groverg@bellatlantic.net


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From: Rick Francis <rfranci@uoft03.utoledo.edu>
Subject: 4/8 ohms from 70v/25v balanced outputs? DuKane 4 X 6CD6 100 watts
Date: Sat, 10 Oct 1998 07:35:58 -0400 (EDT)
Source: Sound Digest Archive v01.n449

My latest toy is a high school PA center, DuKane.  The power amp uses 4 
6CD6 for a rated 100 watts.  Anyway, there are no designated 4/8/16 ohm 
outputs, just 70v and 25v balanced.  But looking on the wiring of 
somewhat similar DuKane w/ 2 6CD6, it looks as though I can use one of 
the 25v outputs with the COMMON output and have maybe a 4 ohm output. Does
anyone see a problem with this?

If anyone has a matching amp for this and wants to swap, please let me
know.

Rick Francis, rfranci@uoft03.utoledo.edu


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From: Scott Grammer <tubedude@cdc.net>
Subject: Re: 4/8 ohms from 70v/25v balanced outputs? DuKane 4 X 6CD6 100 watts
Date: Sat, 10 Oct 1998 11:41:24 -0400
Source: Sound Digest Archive v01.n449

Rick Francis wrote:

> (snip)

> it looks as though I can use one of
> the 25v outputs with the COMMON output and have maybe a 4 ohm output. Does
> anyone see a problem with this?

(snip)
Rick:
For a 25 volt output to express 100 watts across a load it would have to be a
6.25 ohm load. Sound like you could use this tap for 4 or 8 ohms, with a bit
of compromise going either way!

S.G.
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From: andre@indigo.ie (Andre Jute)
Subject: 4. Mirror, mirror on the wall, who is the least truthful of them all?
Date: Tue, 12 Aug 1997 03:08:32 +0100
Source: Sound Digest Archive v01.n088

QUESTION: "Thank you for your article. But I cannot see what in your
article they are getting so heated up about." (noted by most who wrote to
apologize for the antics of the claque who attacked me behind my back)

QUESTION: "I cannot understand why you let this bullying scum get away
without answering them." (a double handful)

ANSWER
Yes, you are right, I was taking the easy way out. I do have a duty to
people of goodwill not to let bullies get away with such blatant thuggery
because I begrudge the time and energy taken to resist them.

Where their charges refer at all to my article, I place an extract from the
article to demonstrate their distortions and lies; the complete article is
in "The whole truth and nothing but the whole truth".

But, as I explain in "Who gains financially by the bullying on the Joenet",
the article is merely a pretext for character assassination.

I also expose a few of the more obvious of the other lies. But a full reply
will take too long and I have to get back to useful work because, in the
end, these wankers don't really matter--the truth always gets out and then,
like poor Frank Deutschmann, they always discover they have done themselves
far more harm than their intended victim.


Andre Jute
Charisma is the talent to engender irrational rage and envy in those who
have never met one

andre@indigo.ie
Communication Jute
http://www.foundmark.com/ComJute/ComJuteF1.html

also leads to the pages we support for audiophiles, writers, lovers of
classical music, and environmentalists

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>From Mike LaFevre:
>> The only thing more boring than "what is the best tranney" is by far "what is
>> the optimum load"....shew!!!  As regards "universal trans" you might want to
>> check out the guest editorial in the current issue of Glass Audio wherein the
>> guest coloumnist  (Andre Jute) spanks all of the "small specialist builders"
>> whom do not offer universal type outputs....

This is the piece in my article that Mike misrepresents as punishment:
"The most passionate opponents of taps are found among the smaller
specialist winders. Can it be that the smaller specialist winders fear that
supplying tapped output transformers will cut the number they can sell? Or
do tapped transformers truly degrade the sound?"

And perhaps he missed this bit:
"I am not interested in fighting this bitter battle impedances] over and
over again because my preference in any event falls in the middle"

And any businessman with intelligence will see this as a invitation,
instead of a challenge to his authority:
"It is high time someone knowledgeable gave us a dispassionate account of
transformer taps. Measurements would be welcome, but even an overview,
accessible to laymen, of the factors to be considered would more than we
have now."

Over in "Who gains financially by the bullying on the Joenet" I explain the
reasons for Mikey's deliberate misunderstandings and hypocrisies.
Non-native English speakers may read my explanation in " Sex life of the
audiophile redneck" of the rich Freudian overtones of Mike's "spanks".
Other unconconsionable Freudian slips by his buddies are obvious all
through these chronicles, with just a few of the more self-damning
explicitly listed in "Brown-noser".


>From Ron Bales:
>Good to see the Gapster back in town - we missed ya.
>
>So, if you don't mind TOO badly, what on earth did you ever do to the
>Corchorus person?  Is he going on like this just because you wouldn't
>sell him a transformer that is unlike those which you normally design
>and sell?
>
>Oh well, the twerp is outta here.  I am disgusted to see him show up in
>GA.  Fortunately he appears next to Lynn's excellent piece of work, for
>all to compare. Am very disappointed that the first person who should
>have made that comparison, Ed Dell didn't do his job.

Ron identifies Mike as a target. I never mentioned Mike. I wrote the
outline of the article as a question which was posted here about two years
ago, *before* Mike, Ron, Frank Deutschmann and a few lesser sucker-fish
produced it, the first time round, as an adversary spectacular in the
Circus Maximus with me cast in the role of the Christian and themselves as
the lions. There was thus no question of animosity to Mike or to anyone
else, and there still isn't.

Ron Bales is a paid-up member of NRA, a sanctimonious gun fondler with a
predilection to bar brawls, who depends for his right to bear arms on a
constitution whose right to free speech he tries to deny others on the
really convincing ground that they are "twerps". That you have been
pronounced a "twerp" is also all the excuse needed for bullying you.

My guess is that a guy as inflexible as Ron is an unwitting tool of
(respectively) sneakier, slyer and smarmier manipulators like Mike LaFevre,
Pat Currie and Reid Welch.  A book burner but probably not a leader of book
burners.

The last time I left here, Ron asked me for a job and I turned him down.


>From Pat Currie:
>Aarghh!

"Gentleman" Pat Currie, being unaccustomedly reticent, perhaps seeing too
clearly what is happening here and wondering when someone would ask me to
explain and I would oblige.

See "Who gains financially by the bullying on the Joenet" for Pat's
detailed explanation of Mikey's "exclusive tranny marketing preserve on the
Joelist", its raison d'etre and the means of its enforcement. That
explanation was made in the days before Pat decided that if Mikey can earn
a guaranteed buck off the Joe-list, so can any half-smart Irishman named
Pat.

Pat and his Lowther subagent and sidekick, Tom Ronan are in this pack of
hyenas not so much for my past insults to their "honor" as for greed. Pat
is quick enough to condemn me as "not a gentlemen" for pointing out that
Tommy is either a liar or ignorant in matters in which he had an undeclared
financial interest and on which consequently he shouldn't have opened his
mouth until he had ascertained the facts. But you may conclude from Pat's
explanation of the facts of life to me, given in "Who gains financially by
the bullying on the Joenet", that of all people here Pat himself must
realize that this isn't about honor but about money. (Pat and the rest of
the arseholes will shortly be all over me for telling tales out of school,
in particular for explaining to "a bunch of slack lurkers" "how things
really work". It is a standard bullying tactic to accuse anyone who tells
the truth of betraying the establishment.)


>From Ron Bales again:
>It is actually worse than it sounds, Pat. When he threw his tantrums
>here he at least named names and got personal.  His editorial is
>shockingly pointless and irritating for it.

No, I didn't name names. You did, Ron. On both occasions. And by so doing
made it clear that you still regard yourself as the enforcer of Mikey's
exclusive right to sell low impedance trannies here. Ron, Ron, get with the
program! Mikey has moved on. He now has machines to wind any impedance. He
merely forgot to tell you that impedance battles are now "boring" to him
because they might remind people of the attitude he took yesterday and so
cut into sales.

As for "tantrums", check the actual text of the article at "The whole truth
and nothing but the whole truth"; it is all eminently moderate. As for
"shockingly" not mentioning names, in my article, as always, I am
interested in knowledge, not name-calling. On this evidence I can safely
leave name-calling  to you.

As for the other names *you* try to drag in, of people not involved at all
in your present misrepresentations, I have removed them from these
quotations for the sake of decency and fairness.


>From Rick Francis:
>Oh there was a point to it.  All you tranny makers gotta put more taps on,
>AND  --here's the kicker-- you *HAVE* TO EXPLAIN HOW TO MATCH IMPEDANCE,
>and you *HAVE* to do it without getting all messy with different current
>ratings or math or figuring or reading or any of that stuff.  You have to
>turn something with lots of variables into something easy for the rest of us.
>
>I doubt if it's possible to do so, but it's not clear to me WHY you have
>this responsibility.  I wonder if writers have a responsibility to explain
>clearly exactly how to write and how to get published, until anyone who
>wants to know is satisfied..

This is the invitation I actually extended in the article that Rick turns
into vicious coercion:
"It is high time someone knowledgeable gave us a dispassionate account of
transformer taps. Measurements would be welcome, but even an overview,
accessible to laymen, of the factors to be considered would more than we
have now."

Rick Francis is a college-level teacher of English. When Rick misreprents a
casual invitation as enforcement with several "*HAVE*"s, all capitalized
and italicized, it is not a misunderstanding, it is a malicious lie. I am
embarrassed that another writer, even if he is only a translator, should so
misrepresent a simple, brief text.

The rest of Rick's first paragraph bears no relation whatsoever to anything
in my article. I didn't anywhere ask tranny makers to do any of that. It is
all from Rick's fevered imagination.

Now check Rick's second par, about writers explaining what they do. The
implication is that I know that what I ask (DEMAND, as Rick has it in a
later post quoted below, though I don't even ask it, as stated immediately
above) of tranny winders is impossible, and that I am insincere because I
don't practice what I preach. It's all crap, produced by Rick with his
shorts down--as we shall shortly disgustingly hear him admit. He knows none
of this is true because when I was here we had much correspondence about
it. Even if he has forgotten, five minutes of research would provide him
with plenty of evidence that not only do I believe that writers have an
obligation to explain to any bona fide aspirant, but that I have put over a
quarter century of strenuous effort into explaining to wannbe writers via:

- --three how-to books for other writers currently in print in multiple
editions and languages, one of them a best seller of its type in its
enlarged edition published in America by St Martin's Press, New York
- --several years of varied columns in how-to magazines (multiple, in several
countries and languages) for writers
- --innumerable articles ditto
- --useful extracts from what I have written to help other writers in many of
the standard references, including these that are probably on Rick's shelf
or only as far away as his college library:
- -----Novelist's and Short Story Writer's Market, 1989*;
- -----Writer's and Artist's Yearbook, most years in the last decade.
- --lectures too numerous to count at courses and conferences for writers
- --over thirty hours of tapes of my lectures as a writer-in-residence being
sold royalty-free (without income to me) to aspirants and students
- --extracts and chapters from my books and articles for writers in several
places on the internet, placed by me and others--all Rick had to do was
search for my name

(*the extract in Novelist's Market, 1989, is the entire chapter on
"Character" from another book of mine. Ironic then that my condemnation of
these people, and Frank Deutschmann and Reid Welch who are hiding behind
the arras until the next installment, hinge on their character. The
"Character" chapter from my book has been reprinted over thirty times and
also formed the basis of a public service radio program.)

Furthermore, I have explained far more even than Rick claims I insist that
tranny winders should explain, in that I have explained not only why
writers do things, but how aspirants can do them too. So, if I were to ask
tranny winders to explain, I would stand on the firm moral ground of not
asking them to do anything I am not willing to do myself, in fact I would
be asking them to do much less than I have already done myself!

Really, Rick, it is an insult that you should think you can get away with
imputing insincerity to me.

I am deeply embarrassed to know an academic who is so slack about his
research that his statements amount to outright lies.


>From Tom Ronan:
>No..Andre wouldn't want to figure out all of that stuff.  He would want
>some nice Young Guy to tell him how, and to design his power supplies and
>undo his shorts.  (heh.  Think what you want, but most of us remember his
>'high current' power supply with the BIG short in it)


I remember. There was a short in the circuit. I knew there was something
wrong with it and asked on the list. And instead of telling me how to
correct it, I got a whole long weekend of this kind of sneering, jeering
abuse, nicely led by Doug Purl's "undergraduate error". In my usual manner,
I thanked everyone politely and sought the truth from qualified persons. On
the Tuesday, thirty seconds after I showed the same circuit to my
professional advisers, they showed me how to correct it, explained why it
was popular in the 1920's or 30's but fell into disuse; the circuit itself
will shortly appear in an amp of mine. After that I no longer asked power
supply questions here. The subtext of "Na-na-na-na-na, look how stupid
Andre is," reads, "Na-na-na-na-na, look how all-knowing we are." Of course,
I never pretended to know everything, or indeed anything at all, whereas
one by one, by the simple expedient of double- and triple-checking
everything, I caught the self-declared experts in stupid errors as when--

More recently Tom Ronan and Pat Currie for their own commercial reasons
misled me about Lowther drivers and then on hand of my prodding admitted
they had not even read the manufacturer's spec sheet. Of course they will
not admit it now, but one wonders why, together with the usual pack of
bullyboys, they flung such a lot of personal abuse at me after I dared
suggest the published spec might just be relevant information, and I might
just have a right to test speakers I own in any way I please up to and
including destroying them (of course I didn't destroy or even damage
anything but from the screaming and hairtearing here any stranger might
have concluded I'd burned down the factory and desecrated Voight's tomb).
After that I got my speaker information from professionals who know what
they are talking about.

Since I was already getting most of the useful information that I got from
people I had met here offlist (because they didn't want the usual bickering
from the peanut gallery or the swingeing attacks from the Frank Deutschmann
that fell on everyone who had a kind word for me), that didn't leave much
to hang on for, so I left before one of these electronic thugs got the
brilliant idea of deliberately steering me wrong to see how I liked some HV
across the heart (Frank Deutschmann, as his contribution to universal
goodwill before Christmas, had already wished publicly that I would
electrocute myself).

Many moons later I return, to find this collection of spiteful drivel being
dished out by the same tired old twanks, now trying to spice themselves up
with stained underjocks:


>From Rick Francis again:
>Let me guess.  You undid his shorts.  No, wait, you undid your shorts,
>and then you read the piece, and then made use of it before redoing his
>shorts.  I mean your shorts.  You undid your shorts with laughter.  You
>contemplated writing an editorial in which you request NAY you DEMAND
>that Andre undo your shorts, now besmirched, as a result of reading the
>editorial.  I'll stop to keep it shorts.  I mean short.


I'm now even more embarrassed to know you, Rick.


>From Tom Ronan again:
>Andre wrote:
>
>(some stuff about a filament supply that he designed, all of which I deleted)
>
>
>Now eveyone, be nice! and shhhh!
>
>*tee hee*


Tom Ronan is studying to be a lawyer. Here he condemns a circuit that *he
has never seen* and adds a few sneers. Is your copy of the Life of Roy Cohn
well-thumbed, Tom? Do you reckon you learned much in Evidence 101?

The purpose of this piece of Ronan nastiness quoted above, which Tommy will
shortly try to excuse as "just a bit of fun", is to undermine publication
of any adverse findings about Lowther drivers I may have after nine months
of experiments and tests. Currie and Ronan are Lowther dealers, in case you
haven't noticed.

When Currie and Ronan get a Reps franchise, we shall hear what they truly
think of Lowther. Of course, by then it will be too late for many of you in
their captive market on the Joelist, who will have spent your money on
Lowthers.

The irony is that it is their methods that do the damage and keep the case
open. They *don't know* what I intend to say about Lowthers. They are
reacting out of fear of any truth, good, bad or indifferent,that does not
support their exploitation of the received myth which, amazingly, doesn't
even include the factory spec sheet! If anyone I or a client of mine
franchised to deal in our product did negative PR of such elephantine
clumsiness as Currie and Ronan, I'd yank their franchise within the hour.


>From Ron Bales again:
>Besides I was reading
>in a magazine how this action/adventure novelist says that high
>impedence primaries are really cool.

This is what I actually wrote:

"I am not interested in fighting this bitter battle [on impedances] over
and over again because *my preference in any event falls in the
middle*--and we know that innocents caught between opposing armies are
burnt by the flamethrowers!"

You're a liar, Ron.




>From Ken Dangerfield:
>Argh?!*%$??!  He had been gone for so long, and the list was so
>pleasant, that I felt safe in cleaning up and deleting some of my
>mail filtering rules.  Now I'll have to reset them.
>
>I know we're not supposed to have any rules on the list but can't we
>have just one - that being that it is verboten to mention his name in
>any post for any reason at any time in any way.  Please ?


Ken Dangerfield is also a lawyer. Yet he assumes that the victim is guilty
of something. He doesn't ask why someone is being accused of
misconduct--behind his back--without being advised.

Ah, shit, why bother. Ken's a wet lamb running on the fringe of a pack of
hyenas bleating that he wants to belong, that he too wants a bite at
someone who doesn't conform so that he can prove he belongs. He's never
built an amp in his life, he's never done anything original in his life,
he's never contributed anything here except whining complaints.  He's
included in this roll of dishonor not because I think his malice amounts to
enough to be worth our time, but through his unthinking overenthusiasm to
belong somewhere. (Makes one wonder about his social life, doesn't it?)

But Ken has a point, even if his judgement is so poor that he presents his
advice in a way sure to promote its rejection.

If the mere mention of my name infuriates you folk so much, why not delete
it from your vocabulary?

Take Ken's advice--you are not likely ever again to stumble on him being
sensible!--and don't take my name in vain

(This advice is intended only for the bullyboys. The rest of you, decent
people all, can say what you like about me. I am sure your test will be,
"Is what I say  true and fair?")


>From Sylvain GiguËre
>Sigh! no equilibrium lasts for ever... but truth comes out of chaos (and
>babling?;-) isn't it?
>
>Then we should have a lot of truth coming our way soon.

Never a truer word spoken by you, Sylvain. But can you, and your
pack-running pals, handle this much truth?


****
If you're wondering why Sylvain's creepy chum the offlist incitement
specialist REID WELCH isn't here, it is because Reid rates a special
monument of infamy all to himself. It is called "Brown-noser" and in it
Reid explains in his own words the mechanism by which the commercial
predators who operate on the Joelist connect with the common or garden
pack-bullies (above) who enforce their franchise. It's a sociologist's wet
dream.
****



Andre Jute
andre@indigo.ie
Communication Jute

http://www.foundmark.com/ComJute/ComJuteF1.html

also leads to the pages we support for audiophiles, writers, lovers of
classical music, and environmentalists


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From: jc morrison <jcm@eclipse.net>
Subject: 4 sale
Date: Wed, 13 May 1998 08:10:55 -0700
Source: Sound Digest Archive v01.n278

the following is for sale:

the pair of 211 se amps seen and heard at the philly audio show...
these are the prototype amps for my $12,000 finished product, the gold
chassis for which was also on display at philly. they are electrically
identical to the finished ones, work perfectly, 24 watts, trick 3 stage
dc circuit, unfinished 1/4 inch thick copper top plates, black anodized
aluminum chassis, tube complement is 5687, 5687, 211. damper diode
rectifier. there is a photo of the amps on steve rochlin's home page
(http://www.enjoythemusic.com/patubeshow.htm). what's the problem? i
need cash fast and now. my misfortune can be your good fortune... $4500
firm. the raw materials for this amp is $2500, you do the math. if you
take these amps now i will include a pair of amperex HF-120 transmitting
tubes (rare euro 211, low capacitance, brass bases, beautiful sound...).

thank you!
jc


=========================================================================
From: jc morrison <jcm@eclipse.net>
Subject: Re: 4 sale
Date: Thu, 14 May 1998 07:02:15 -0700
Source: Sound Digest Archive v01.n279

211 se gone... it looks like i have a buyer, thank you those who
responded and oh wondrous internet! 
jc


=========================================================================
From: jc morrison <jcm@eclipse.net>
Subject: 4 sale
Date: Wed, 17 Jun 1998 11:28:24 -0700
Source: Sound Digest Archive v01.n312

once again,
4 sale: 

1 pair Tango XE-20s new in the boxes $400 for both ($450 if i have to
ship them)

4 RCA red base 5691's $25 each ($30 if you want me to ship)

6 sylvania NIB 76's $10 each ($15 each if i ship, see a pattern here?)

4 slightly used 5R4GY $5 each (i'll ship them for the same price if you
get some thing else...)

1 pair RCA 800's NIB (although the boxes are funky...) $250 for the pair
and i won't ship them. these are rare and super cool, globes with dual
plate caps. one is the blackened nickel plate and the other is plain.
test identical. (i may never get to building with em...)

1 pair WE VT-25 w/ceramic bases w/boxes $250 for the pair ($300 shipped)

thank you!


=========================================================================
From: jc morrison <604.east.9th.nyc.10009@mingus.m>
Subject: 4 sale again...
Date: Mon, 06 Oct 1997 04:51:31 -0400
Source: Sound Digest Archive v01.n058

hey! you nyc area audio persons...
not one of the people who said they would stop by to pick up that stuff
have come. so here it is again: *for pick up only*

9: 5R4 WGB nos 5$ each
5: 5R4 GY  nos 5$ each
4: 5R4 GYA nos 5$ each
11 5V4 various 5$ each
4: RCA 112-A (12A) ST nos $15 each
4: 71A (various) nos ST $10 each
4: 7199 RCA nos $5 each
8: 6LF6 GE nos $25 each
4: RCA 56 $5 each

i also have some iron:

2 each 10h open frame hewlett packard chokes (around 80 - 100 ma) $5 each
2 each 10h potted chokes 75ma $5 each
2 each 6h potted chokes 250 ma $10
1 thordarson potted antique choke 200ma (i think 6h) very cute $5
1 chicago potted choke from rca theatre amp $5
1 power trans. NOS stancor 800vct 200ma 6.6vct 5A 5vac 3A $15

i will be home all day wednesday, and tuesday after 6:00 pm
212-982-6421
604 east 9th street #5
jc


=========================================================================
From: jc morrison <jcm@eclipse.net>
Subject: 4 sale continued
Date: Tue, 05 May 1998 12:01:47 -0700
Source: Sound Digest Archive v01.n270

jc morrison wrote:
> 
> like it says:
> 
> 4 nos each  7199 40$ for all
> 4 nos telefunken 6DJ8 $25 each
> 2 hytron VT-52 no boxes, brand new $50 each
> 4 utc A-26 interstage trannies (30k: 500, 333 , 200, 125, 50 ohms) $25
> each
> 
> there will be more (house cleaning) cash only, no shipping!!!! you come
> here, you bring green dollars, the stuff is yours.

also, one pair *used* tango FW-14S $200 for the pair. cmon, try out that
VT-2 amp idea you have, or maybe a 10Y. 14k single ended! i have built
about 20 circuits around these trannies, lots o fun, take em away before
i change my mind.

my address is:
721 grand st. 2nd floor
hoboken, NJ 
tel. 201-653-4690
please call before dropping by. also, please read the following:

i will not hold anything for anybody! first come, first served! so
please don't put me on the spot.

thank you,
jc


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From: jc morrison <jcm@eclipse.net>
Subject: 4 sale more goodies
Date: Wed, 06 May 1998 13:17:34 -0700
Source: Sound Digest Archive v01.n271

like it says, let me repeat the terms:
cash, no waiting or holding, i don't ship, you come here, first
come/first served...

2 WE101D $50 each
2 WE301A $35 each
2 RCA 3C33 $50 each 
sockets for the above $5 each
2 WE VT-25 (ceramic bases) $125 each
1 pair BIG UTC power trannies, CG series, you figure it out $50 for 2
4 5R4GY $10 each

cmon, make em do something!
jc


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From: Robert Root <rrjlife@earthlink.net>
Subject: Re: 4 sale more goodies
Date: Thu, 07 May 1998 08:45:14 -0700
Source: Sound Digest Archive v01.n272

jc morrison wrote:
> 
> like it says, let me repeat the terms:
> cash, no waiting or holding, i don't ship, you come here, first
> come/first served...
> 
> 2 WE101D $50 each
> 2 WE301A $35 each
> 2 RCA 3C33 $50 each
> sockets for the above $5 each
> 2 WE VT-25 (ceramic bases) $125 each
> 1 pair BIG UTC power trannies, CG series, you figure it out $50 for 2
> 4 5R4GY $10 each
> 
> cmon, make em do something!
> jc
JC I will take the 101D-Tennis ball tubes

     thanks


=========================================================================
From: jc morrison <jc@underline.net>
Subject: 4 sale (pickup only nyc)
Date: Tue, 16 Sep 1997 18:09:16 -0400
Source: Sound Digest Archive v01.n025

here's some stuff for sale, no energy to ship so please don't ask.

9: 5R4 WGB nos 5$ each
5: 5R4 GY  nos 5$ each
4: 5R4 GYA nos 5$ each
11 5V4 various 5$ each
4: RCA 112-A (12A) ST nos $15 each
4: 71A (various) nos ST $10 each
4: 7199 RCA nos $5 each
8: 6LF6 GE nos $25 each
4: RCA 56 $5 each

i also have a few (not many...) chokes and trannies for sale, between $10
and $20.
i don't need em, maybe you do?
you can call me at: 212-982-6421 and come get em. first come first served
(i won't hold them for you...).

jc

Tim Reese
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MGH NMR Center
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13th Street, Bldg 149 (2301)
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