Sound Practices Mailing List Files - Volume 2
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From: "Daniel J. Marshall" <danmarshall@worldnet.att.net>
Subject: [JN] FA: Accuphase P-300 Power Amplifier
Date: Fri, 04 Feb 2000 08:25:13 -0800
Source: Sound Digest Archive v02.n433
Hi All,
Not needing 150 watts/channel, I decided to sell the Accuphase amp. It
sold on ebay for $500 several days ago, but the buyer pussed-out and
refused to complete the transaction, said it was too large to fit into
his cabinetry, so it was relisted. I intended to put in a reserve price
of $450, but somehow, in the listing it was neglected. The bid is
currently $360 and the auction closes in a couple hours at 10:48 West
Coast time. As SS amps go, Accuphase is an excellent amplifier. To my
ear, I can't hear much difference between it and the W-5M Heath tube
amps I just tweaked in. I tried to measure the distortion, but it was
down below that of the HP 200CD low-distortion test oscillator, at any
power level. I could observe no crossover distortion that SS amps are
often criticized for, even at a hundred milliwats output. One collector
who has Krell, Threshold, Mac, etc. claims that his Accuphase amps sound
better than anything else he has. Anyway, it is an excellent amp in very
nice condition. If you have low to medium efficiency speakers you would
be very pleased with it. New Accuphase amps sell in the $6,000 to
$9,000 range, or thereabouts.
http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=251132986
Thanx.
Dan Marshall
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From: "Daniel J. Marshall" <danmarshall@worldnet.att.net>
Subject: [JN] FA: Allen 75s, Quad NOS 2A3s, Jensen A-12
Date: Fri, 10 Mar 2000 09:41:05 -0800
Source: Sound Digest Archive v02.n478
Hi All,
I have listed the three items above on eBay. Here is the seller's list,
in case anyone is interested in having a look. All are in excellent
condition.
http://cgi6.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewListedItems&userid=danmarshall@worldnet.att.net
DM
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From: Dan Marshall <mdaniel7@uswest.net>
Subject: [JN] FA: Allen 90 Watt Tube Amps
Date: Mon, 17 Sep 2001 13:02:35 +0000
Source: Sound Digest Archive v02.n977
Hi All,
I have a nice pair of largish Allen Organ tube amps for sale. They have
been checked out and are in good operating condition. So, far I have
not had success with them on eBay, though, based upon bids on previous
Allen 90 amp listings, it would seem that they are bargain priced.
The terrorist activity has seemingly put a damper on many things,
including eBay activity, or so it seems, so perhaps this is the reason.
Anyway, if you have need of a pair of quality, hefty tube amps, please
check these out.
The output iron seems to be particularly good, quite possibly Peerless,
though I have no proof of this. They are sufficiently wideband that no
compensating cap is used across the feedback resistor, which I have not
seen before, nor is there other freq compensation in the amps. I have a
detailed rundown on them in the listing.
http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=1275862151
Sorry about the commercialization, but I need to raise some short term
cash.
Dan Marshall
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From: analogtubeaudio@t-online.de (Robert Graetke)
Subject: [JN] ***FA: audio transformer Western Electric KS 8728
Date: Sun, 20 Feb 2000 09:28:56 +0100
Source: Sound Digest Archive v02.n455
http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=264571705
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From: analogtubeaudio@t-online.de (Robert Graetke)
Subject: [JN] ***FA: audio transformer Western Electric KS 8728
Date: Sun, 20 Feb 2000 09:31:04 +0100
Source: Sound Digest Archive v02.n455
http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=264571705
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From: Jeremy Epstein <jepstein@shwd.com>
Subject: [JN] Fabulous Offer Is CLOSED
Date: Tue, 15 Jun 1999 09:28:44 -0400
Source: Sound Digest Archive v02.n179
Thanks to the speedy Joe who replied!
- -j
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Jeremy Epstein .... jepstein@shwd.com
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From: RonSonic <rbales@gte.net>
Subject: [JN] FA: DeccaCartridge and EV SP12B's
Date: Mon, 30 Oct 2000 18:41:07 -0500
Source: Sound Digest Archive v02.n711
Tasty additions to the beginning and end of the signal chain.
EV SP12B 12" full range drivers
http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=481163422
Decca Phono Cartridge
http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=481181368
Thanks for the spamwidth.
Ron
Check out the band at http://www.flapcats.com
Always new songs online at
http://artists.mp3s.com/artists/122/flapcats.html
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From: "Cameron Brook" <cambrook@cyllene.uwa.edu.au>
Subject: [JN] FA: Fisher remote control
Date: Sat, 13 Jan 2001 19:15:19 +0800
Source: Sound Digest Archive v02.n783
This may be of interest to some Joes.
http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=1206611492
I have no connection etc etc, I just found this while browsing
Cameron
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From: Dan Marshall <mdaniel7@uswest.net>
Subject: [JN] FA/FS
Date: Thu, 29 Mar 2001 15:57:55 +0000
Source: Sound Digest Archive v02.n848
Hi All,
My life is at a turning point (for the better), consequently, I intend
to sell most of the stuff I have accumulated over the years, mainly
amps, speakers, speaker components, a few SS pieces, etc. I just listed
some stuff on eBay, all good stuff, output transformers, speakers, a
vintage amp, etc. Have a look if interested. I will be selling more
stuff as I get around to checking it out and either getting it listed,
or perhaps offering it here.
http://cgi6.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewListedItems&userid=danmarshall&include=0&since=-1&sort
=2&rows=25
Dan Marshall
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From: Rick Francis <rfrancis@glasscity.net>
Subject: [JN] FA/FS/FT: WE and other tubes
Date: Mon, 25 Jan 1999 15:52:03 -0500
Source: Sound Digest Archive v02.n012
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I'm selling some WE and other tubes on <shudder> e-bay. Even if you think buying
on e-bay is for suckers, you might take a look at the pretty pictures I took with
my new digital camera. I have duplicates of many of these tubes (okay, not the
Gold Lion KT-66), esp. the WE tubes. So if you see something you like, e-mail me
and maybe we can work it out. Some WE auctions end today, but see pics at
> http://www.glasscity.net/users/rfrancis/WE387A-1.jpg
>
> http://www.glasscity.net/users/rfrancis/WE387A-2.jpg
>
My current auctions:
http://cgi3.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewListedItems&userid=rfrancis@glasscity.net
Rick
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I'm selling some WE and other tubes on <shudder> e-bay. Even if
you think buying on e-bay is for suckers, you might take a look at the
pretty pictures I took with my new digital camera. I have duplicates
of many of these tubes (okay, not the Gold Lion KT-66), esp. the WE tubes.
So if you see something you like, e-mail me and maybe we can work it out.
Some WE auctions end today, but see pics at
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My current auctions:
<BR><A HREF="http://cgi3.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewListedItems">http://cgi3.ebay.com/aw-cgi/
eBayISAPI.dll?ViewListedItems</A>&userid=rfrancis@glasscity.net
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From: Steve Van Osdell <svanos@queencity.com>
Subject: [JN] FA: Goodman Audiom 955 Woofers
Date: Wed, 09 Aug 2000 23:59:40 -0400
Source: Sound Digest Archive v02.n623
If anyone is interested, I've got a pair of Goodman Adiom 955 Woofers
(FS=25) up for auction on ebay.
Thanks, Steve
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From: "Aaron Bohnen" <bohnen@unixg.ubc.ca>
Subject: [JN] FA: Goodmans Audiom 81 15" alnico woofer
Date: Mon, 8 Nov 1999 11:12:00 -0800
Source: Sound Digest Archive v02.n325
Hi everyone,
I'm really putting in a big effort to clean out a few things from my
burgeoning audio collection. I'm auctioning a Goodmans Audiom 81 16 Ohm
15" woofer on Ebay right now. If anyone is interested please have a look
at:
http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=195690774
Thanks for the space and best regards to all,
Aaron
___________________________________________________________
Aaron Bohnen email: bohnen@unixg.ubc.ca
- -Ph.D. Student, Civil Engineering Department, U.B.C.
- -website: http://www.civil.ubc.ca/home/bohnen
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From: "R. Thatcher" <rht3@alumni.cwru.edu>
Subject: [JN] FA: Goodmans Axiom 100 Mk2
Date: Wed, 23 Aug 2000 09:12:36 -0400
Source: Sound Digest Archive v02.n639
Sorry for the bandwidth...
http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=416496178
Does anyone have a Mullard 6DJ8 in good condition they'd part with?
Used is fine, but the microphonics on mine are getting worse and worse!
Randy
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From: "Daniel J. Marshall" <danmarshall@worldnet.att.net>
Subject: [JN] FA: Good Stuff
Date: Fri, 24 Mar 2000 12:47:10 -0800
Source: Sound Digest Archive v02.n494
Hi All,
I posted a bunch of stuff on eBay yesterday (closing Sunday), some
pretty neat stuff, some not so neat. It was just too much stuff to get
involved in multiple emails and determining who was first etc., so I
pussed-out and listed it on eBay. There will be more to come, when I
get around to listing it. There are 288C drivers, UTC interstage and
linestage trannies, big UTC chokes, tweeters, midranges, woofers, a NOS
JBL 075 diaphram and a very nice, good-sized isolation transformer with
plugs, circuit breaker, on/off, etc.
http://cgi3.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewListedItems&userid=danmarshall@worldnet.att.net
Anyway, if interested, have a looksee.
Dan Marshall
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From: TubeGarden@aol.com
Subject: [JN] Faith, Hope and Glory (rantlette)
Date: Thu, 11 Jan 2001 19:52:47 EST
Source: Sound Digest Archive v02.n782
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In a message dated 1/11/01 12:40:47 PM US Mountain Standard Time,
bart.s@bigpond.net.au writes:
> As soon as we take this path we are no longer engineers attempting to design
> the "faithful amplifier" but musical artists painting with a pallet of
> assorted electronics. What is wrong with recognizing this?? Come out of the
> closet!
>
Greets!
Engineers, unlike us rabid audio geeks :), are trained professionals hired to
do a job. They fulfill the requirements set for them by management.
After the cost/specification goals are achieved, or acceptable excuses agreed
to, the marketing department starts grinding out collateral with incredible
bullshit phrases like 'makes every camper a concert hall', 'faithful to every
musical nuance', even 'perfect sound forever'.
Engineering is just honest work, not the moral high ground.
I enjoy listening to circuits built to explore an idea. I am retired and
unencumbered by management trying to execute a business plan. Many decades in
the trenches, er, staff meetings, under the direction of intellectual black
hole calendar worshippers have brought me out into the sunny beaches of
research and delight.
Engineering without management is like sex without guilt.
I am still an engineer, but, now I work to hear more, with less effort, not
add 'features' to room ornaments :)
Happy Ears!
Al B^}
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<HTML><FONT FACE=arial,helvetica><BODY BGCOLOR="#ffffff"><FONT SIZE=2>In a message dated 1/11/01 12
:40:47 PM US Mountain Standard Time, <BR>bart.s@bigpond.net.au writes:
<BR>
<BR>
<BR><BLOCKQUOTE TYPE=CITE style="BORDER-LEFT: #0000ff 2px solid; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px
; PADDING-LEFT: 5px">As soon as we take this path we are no longer engineers attempting to design
<BR>the "faithful amplifier" but musical artists painting with a pallet of
<BR>assorted electronics. What is wrong with recognizing this?? Come out of the
<BR>closet!
<BR></BLOCKQUOTE>
<BR>
<BR>Greets!
<BR>
<BR>Engineers, unlike us rabid audio geeks :), are trained professionals hired to <BR>do a job. They
fulfill the requirements set for them by management.
<BR>
<BR>After the cost/specification goals are achieved, or acceptable excuses agreed <BR>to, the market
ing department starts grinding out collateral with incredible <BR>bullshit phrases like 'makes every
camper a concert hall', 'faithful to every <BR>musical nuance', even 'perfect sound forever'.
<BR>
<BR>Engineering is just honest work, not the moral high ground.
<BR>
<BR>I enjoy listening to circuits built to explore an idea. I am retired and <BR>unencumbered by man
agement trying to execute a business plan. Many decades in <BR>the trenches, er, staff meetings, und
er the direction of intellectual black <BR>hole calendar worshippers have brought me out into the su
nny beaches of <BR>research and delight.
<BR>
<BR>Engineering without management is like sex without guilt.
<BR>
<BR>I am still an engineer, but, now I work to hear more, with less effort, not <BR>add 'features' t
o room ornaments :)
<BR>
<BR>Happy Ears!
<BR>Al B^}
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From: "Larry D. Moore" <l-moore@onu.edu>
Subject: Re: [JN] Faith, Hope and Glory (rantlette)
Date: Fri, 12 Jan 2001 07:53:02 -0500
Source: Sound Digest Archive v02.n782
At 07:52 PM 1/11/01 EST, you wrote:
>In a message dated 1/11/01 12:40:47 PM US Mountain Standard Time,
>bart.s@bigpond.net.au writes:
>
>
>As soon as we take this path we are no longer engineers attempting to design
>the "faithful amplifier" but musical artists painting with a pallet of
>assorted electronics. What is wrong with recognizing this?? Come out of the
>closet!
>
>
>
>Greets!
>
>Engineers, unlike us rabid audio geeks :), are trained professionals hired
to
>do a job. They fulfill the requirements set for them by management.
I think they try to define what it is that it possible for management to do
as well. Having said that, I think the two generally have something
different in mind as to what requirements are achievable.
>After the cost/specification goals are achieved, or acceptable excuses
agreed
>to, the marketing department starts grinding out collateral with incredible
>bullshit phrases like 'makes every camper a concert hall', 'faithful to
every
>musical nuance', even 'perfect sound forever'.
Or try to figure out the short sightedness of the project managers....What
I mean by this is that there is almost a relentlesss request for cost
reduction in an engineering setting. Probably the higher the technology,
the more this is so...
>Engineering is just honest work, not the moral high ground.
I disagree. I think that there are also moral decisions involved.
Engineers are capable of determining what is in the best interest of the
comsumer just like anyone else. Also, engineers are capable of seeing
ideas that project managers are not capable of. Call them features if you
like. Trouble is once the enigneer devulges the idea, then his or her life
gets difficult because then you are in a position where you have to
produce....
>I enjoy listening to circuits built to explore an idea.
Me too.
> I am retired and
>unencumbered by management trying to execute a business plan. Many decades
in
>the trenches, er, staff meetings, under the direction of intellectual black
>hole calendar worshippers have brought me out into the sunny beaches of
>research and delight.
I'm just speaking from the cellular RF industry when I worked for AT&T,
Lucent and Bell Labs. I was a designer. The pressure was on. Less cost,
more profit. Greater ability to sell.
>Engineering without management is like sex without guilt.
Engineering is like sex without a condom. You doing it, but you don't feel
it as much. Art is sex without a condom. You get it all, including laying
your emotions and personality on the line.
>I am still an engineer, but, now I work to hear more, with less effort, not
>add 'features' to room ornaments :)
I still an engineer too; but, I went to law school so that I would have
more control over my life and there was more passion in what I do.
>Happy Ears!
> B^}
Great post. I'm with ya!
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From: "Larry D. Moore" <l-moore@onu.edu>
Subject: Re: [JN] Faith, Hope and Glory (rantlette)
Date: Fri, 12 Jan 2001 09:52:18 -0500
Source: Sound Digest Archive v02.n782
At 02:38 PM 1/12/01 +0100, Christian Rintelen wrote:
>
>"Larry D. Moore" wrote:
>
>> >Engineering is just honest work, not the moral high ground.
>>
>> I disagree. I think that there are also moral decisions involved.
>
>Aren't you confusing moral and ethics?
Nah. They are too intertwined.
>> Engineers are capable of determining what is in the best interest of the
>> comsumer just like anyone else.
>
>I find this statement slightly arrogant because of it's aspect "I'm an
engineer
>*and* a consumer as well, therefore what's good for me is good for everybody
>else".
Never said I was a consumer. The things that I've designed, I've never
bought. My point is: I've been in a position where the "management" has
wanted to take a "feature" out and I've refused to do it. Take 911 service
triangulation services for location availablity offerings in a cellular
community for example.
> I'm not an engineer, but still I believe (wrongfully maybe ;-) that I
>alone can decide what's in the best interest of a consumer like me...
>
>Christian
I think you missed my point. It is: Engineer's opinions are like everyone
else's. Yours, mine, and any other joe-blow. They all count. Perhaps
what you're unhappy with is that other people make decisions for us all
everyday. Take the government for example. Here, we are saying the same
thing. I like it no more than you. Believe me. However, it is there none
the less.
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From: Christian Rintelen <christian@rintelen.ch>
Subject: Re: [JN] Faith, Hope and Glory (rantlette)
Date: Fri, 12 Jan 2001 14:38:57 +0100
Source: Sound Digest Archive v02.n782
"Larry D. Moore" wrote:
> >Engineering is just honest work, not the moral high ground.
>
> I disagree. I think that there are also moral decisions involved.
Aren't you confusing moral and ethics?
> Engineers are capable of determining what is in the best interest of the
> comsumer just like anyone else.
I find this statement slightly arrogant because of it's aspect "I'm an engineer
*and* a consumer as well, therefore what's good for me is good for everybody
else". I'm not an engineer, but still I believe (wrongfully maybe ;-) that I
alone can decide what's in the best interest of a consumer like me...
Christian
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From: "Bart Shepherd \(Home\)" <bart.s@bigpond.net.au>
Subject: RE: [JN] Faith, Hope and Glory (rantlette)
Date: Fri, 12 Jan 2001 19:41:48 +1100
Source: Sound Digest Archive v02.n782
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Engineering is just honest work, not the moral high ground.
>
Hi there,
no high moral ground here ;-)
The "engineer" definition I like best is:
"the guy who can do for $10 what any idiot can do for $100"
Example cute trick - the Fisher idea of making the output tubes' common
cathode bias resistor out of prior stage filaments in series, hence
providing a DC filament supply for free and maybe a tiny bit of feedback and
hum cancellation.
Not sure exactly how well this works in practice but it sure looks cute on
the schematic!
Bart
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From: "Sellek, Grant (TSA)" <Grant.Sellek@transport.sa.gov.au>
Subject: RE: [JN] Faith, Hope and Glory (rantlette)
Date: Sat, 13 Jan 2001 07:22:24 +1030
Source: Sound Digest Archive v02.n783
>-----Original Message-----
>From: Christian Rintelen [mailto:christian@rintelen.ch]
>Sent: Saturday, 13 January 2001
>
> I'm not an engineer, but still I believe (wrongfully
>maybe ;-) that I
>alone can decide what's in the best interest of a consumer like me...
Far from it. Most consumers will buy whatever's cheapest and look OK,
and don't have a clue about safety and functionality. The latter they
often learn about soon after purchase, or gradually; but safety
remains hidden from their awareness/concern, unless they are unlucky.
Grant Sellek, Adelaide, Australia
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From: "Aaron Bohnen" <bohnen@unixg.ubc.ca>
Subject: [JN] FA: JBL LE8T full-range drivers with PR8 passive radiators
Date: Mon, 25 Oct 1999 12:06:31 -0700
Source: Sound Digest Archive v02.n314
Hi everyone,
I have a pair of JBL LE8T alnico full-range 8" drivers with matching PR8
passive radiators up on Ebay right now. They sound and work great, have
recently had new surrounds installed, etc. etc. Efficiency is a little
low at 89~90 dB/1Wm for really flea-power amps but maybe reasonable for
the 8+ wpc crowd.
Anyway, if interested have a look at:
http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=186383120
they're currently $US 212.50 - if they don't get bid up any higher that
will be a pretty good deal for someone.
best regards to all and humble apologies for wasting bandwidth on this -
I hope it isn't wasted bandwidth. I really like these and I'd like to see
these go to a Joe rather than off to a stranger.
best regards,
Aaron
___________________________________________________________
Aaron Bohnen email: bohnen@unixg.ubc.ca
- -Ph.D. Student, Civil Engineering Department, U.B.C.
- -website: http://www.civil.ubc.ca/home/bohnen
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From: TubeGarden@aol.com
Subject: Re: [JN] Fake Orgasms -- Let's not give anyone the "audio daffy"
Date: Thu, 11 Oct 2001 15:16:13 EDT
Source: Sound Digest Archive v02.n992
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Greets!
Hooray for sound!
Happy Ears!
Al
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<BR>
<BR>Hooray for sound!
<BR>
<BR>Happy Ears!
<BR>Al
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From: ToobWiz@aol.com
Subject: Re: [JN] Fake Terror -- Let's not give Bill the "auto da fe"
Date: Thu, 11 Oct 2001 12:52:09 EDT
Source: Sound Digest Archive v02.n992
Please,
let's not start another "yes you did... I did not" thread. Most who will
object to this will object on the Subject of the posting alone. Use the
delete key if you don't like to read this sort of thing.
It probably isn't useful to the topic of audio to carry on, though if one
wants to stop all discourse with which he disagrees, then by all means, do
so. :-)
Cheers/Carron
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From: "PEARL Cust. Service" <custserv@pearl-hifi.com>
Subject: [JN] Fake Terror -- The Road to Dictatorship
Date: Thu, 11 Oct 2001 09:09:11 +0000
Source: Sound Digest Archive v02.n992
Hi All:
While this link might seem "off-topic" it is just about a relevant a thing
as I have come across in a long,long time.
http://www.whatreallyhappened.com/ARTICLE5/index
Also, I've lately sent three mails to the list that had attachments . .
none of which was posted.
I send these things for one reason and one reason only: to inform.
Bill Perkins - PEARL, Calgary, Canada.
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From: Norm Luttbeg <nluttbeg@politics.tamu.edu>
Subject: Re: [JN] Fake Terror -- The Road to Dictatorship
Date: Thu, 11 Oct 2001 11:37:16 -0500
Source: Sound Digest Archive v02.n992
I would question whether the purpose of this post is to "inform." Certainly
it is the oldest trick in the book for leaders to inspire loyalty because of
a external enemy, but unless Bill is suggesting that the CIA ran into the
WTB, what is he saying in this post?
on 10/11/01 4:09 AM, PEARL Cust. Service at custserv@pearl-hifi.com wrote:
> Hi All:
> While this link might seem "off-topic" it is just about a relevant a thing
> as I have come across in a long,long time.
>
> http://www.whatreallyhappened.com/ARTICLE5/index
>
> Also, I've lately sent three mails to the list that had attachments . .
> none of which was posted.
> I send these things for one reason and one reason only: to inform.
>
>
> Bill Perkins - PEARL, Calgary, Canada.
>
>
>
>
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From: "John Levreault" <jlevro@mediaone.net>
Subject: Re: [JN] Fake Terror -- The Road to Dictatorship
Date: Thu, 11 Oct 2001 14:14:48 -0400
Source: Sound Digest Archive v02.n992
If you like that, you'll especially like:
http://davidicke.www.50megs.com/icke/magazine/vol5/bush/bushb.htm and
http://www.skolnicksreport.com/
JL
- ----- Original Message -----
From: "PEARL Cust. Service" <custserv@pearl-hifi.com>
To: <Sound@lists.io.com>
Sent: Thursday, October 11, 2001 5:09 AM
Subject: [JN] Fake Terror -- The Road to Dictatorship
> Hi All:
> While this link might seem "off-topic" it is just about a relevant a
thing
> as I have come across in a long,long time.
>
> http://www.whatreallyhappened.com/ARTICLE5/index
>
> Also, I've lately sent three mails to the list that had attachments .
.
> none of which was posted.
> I send these things for one reason and one reason only: to inform.
>
>
> Bill Perkins - PEARL, Calgary, Canada.
>
>
>
>
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From: "Jay B. Haider" <einberliner@hotmail.com>
Subject: Re: [JN] Fake Terror -- The Road to Dictatorship (OT)
Date: Thu, 11 Oct 2001 16:41:50 -0400
Source: Sound Digest Archive v02.n992
On the theory that a lie repeated often enough and unchallenged becomes the
truth, I reply. My apologies to uninterested readers for this OT post.
There's some interesting (if common knowledge) stuff in there, but when the
author(s) enter the post-Cold War world, they lose it. In particular, they
display a complete and utter lack of knowledge about the situation in the
former Yugoslavia. They correctly say that there were no concentration camps
run by Bosnians in its common usage as a shorthand for the Muslim population
of Bosnia. (As opposed to the ethnic Serbs and Croats who also live in
Bosnia-Herzegovina.) They had neither the land or the resources in order to
do so. However, there were such camps run by one of their occupiers, the
Serbs. That is, when they did not simply decide to exterminate the Bosnian
population, as they did when they overran the so-called UN Safe Haven of
Sebrenica. (The war on Bosnia began essentially as the result of a
Hitler-Stalin style pact by Serbia's Milosevic and Croatia's Tudjman, who,
while still at war with each-other, decided to partition Bosnia between
them.)
Just as importantly, AMERICA DID ABSOLUTELY NOTHING ABOUT THE ATROCITIES
COMMITTED IN BOSNIA UNTIL MUCH AFTER 1992! The article seems to imply
otherwise. Bush pere just didn't care about the area, and Clinton didn't
either. Indeed, America did nothing, just as we abdicated our duties to the
world as leaders of the only remaining superpower in Rwanda. Well, that's
not quite true: they ramrodded an arms embargo on all combatants in the
former Yugoslavia through the UN, thereby denying the Bosnian Muslims the
chance to defend themselves. (The Bosnians, unlike the Serbs and even to a
lesser extent the Croats, had basically no AK-47s let alone tanks or
artillery l at the start of the conflict) The embargo wasn't particularly
effective, though. The Orthodox Serbs continued to be supplied by Russia,
the Catholic Croatians by Eastern Europe, and the Muslim Bosnians mostly by
Turkey, with some arms coming in from the Gulf States, Iran, and Pakistan.
By Kosovo, it became apparent to some of the smarter foreign policy thinkers
in the West, people such as Joshka Fischer (leader of the German
Green/Budnis 90 Party and since mid-1998 German Foreign Minister)and Strobe
Talbott (at the time Deputy US Secretary of State) that to not stop the
Serbian reign of terror in the Balkans could ultimately destablise Europe,
so they acted. Unfortunately, the way they did so, with airstrikes from high
above and great fear of using materiel that could more accurately stop the
Serbian war machine -- such as the Apache helicopters that stayed grounded
in Albania -- allowed the Serbs to largely finish the job.
If the authors of this webpage wanted real examples of government/opposition
conspiracies to grab and hold power from the last several years, they should
have tried these two:
1) In order to assert the domanance of Israel's Lebenraumpolitik over the
rights of the Palestinian people, Gen. Ariel Sharon (a member of the
Knesset, Israel's parliament, who was called a war criminal by that very
body for his 'indirect responsibility' for the massacres at the Sabra and
Shattila refugee camps during the 1982 Israeli invasion of Lebanon) marched
on the Dome of the Rock, the third holiest site in Islam, inside a phalanx
of Israeli stormtroopers and policemen. This action set off the second phase
of the Palestinian independence struggle, and the ensuing violence
catapulted Gen. Sharon into the office of Prime Minister.
2) The Russian's current war in Chechnya began following a terrorist attack
on two apartment buildings in the waning days of Boris Yeltsen's Presidency.
(The current Russian Federation President, Vladimir Putin, was Prime
Minister at the time, following stints in the FSB -- the sucessor to the KGB
- -- and the municipal government of St. Petersburg) The Russian government
immediately blamed the attack on "Chechen Bandits" and redoubled war efforts
in Chechnya. I don't have the report in front of me, but one of the big two
human rights NGOs (Amnesty Int'l or Human Rights Watch) had quite a
different opinion. The evidence, they said, pointed to the FSB!
The implication of your post seems to be suspecion that perhaps the people
who stand to gain the most from public reaction against the attacks (Defense
Secretary Donald Rumsfeld, de facto President Dick Cheney, Attorney General
and wannabe crusader who couldn't even beat a dead man to hold on to his
Senate seat John Ashcroft) were behind it. That seems quite far-fetched. Not
even Rummy and Cheney are THAT evil, I don't think. (I hope.) The attack was
carried out by a minimum of 20 or so people, possibly with the support of a
larger organisation. (As no evidence has actually been presented of the
involvement of bin Laden or anyone else, reasonable people will hold their
judgement.)
I quite agree with the basic idea you're attempting to convey, that America
has no business trying to overthrow the government of Afghanistan, let alone
reinstate the warlords of the Northern Alliance, whose rule made the
Taleban's success seem like a blessing.
Do I like the Taleban government? No, I don't. In a lot of ways, their
stupidity and ignorance of Islam makes their name -- translated as
"Students" -- laughable. But on balance their human rights record isn't
appreciably different from those of the governments of Israel, Saudi Arabia,
Algeria, Zimbabwe, or Egypt. I don't see America bombing Tel Aviv in attempt
to remove Gen. Sharon, or Harare in order to unseat Robert Mugabe, so why
attack Afghanistan? For that matter, I don't see bombs flying on Washington
to unseat our own dubiously-elected government.
Furthermore, they are fundamentally wrong in taking a legal matter (the
murder of civilians by other civilians is by definition a crime, no matter
how horrendous the scale) and turning it into a military matter. With a
fundamentalist like Ashcroft in charge of Justice, who is to stick up for
rule of law in the US? (We are, I guess.)
However, the anti-war position is one entirely defensible with facts and
evidence. There's no need to spread half-truths in attempts to keep keep
Rummy and Cheney from augmenting their terrorist credentials in the
mountains and valleys of Afghanistan, when the truth will work just fine.
Peace,
J
NP: The Guess Who, "American Woman"
_________________________________________________________________
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From: "Daniel J. Marshall" <danmarshall@worldnet.att.net>
Subject: [JN] FA: Linaeum 10 and Linaeum Extremes.
Date: Wed, 25 Aug 1999 18:34:26 -0700
Source: Sound Digest Archive v02.n263
Hi All,
I listed these on ebay, yeah, I know, its uncouth, but I didn't think
most of you would be interested as they are not suitable for low-power
SE amps. The Lineaum 10s are quite nice high-end speakers listing at
$3,000. I have them at an opening bid of $800 with no reserve, and, so
far, no bid. The auction ends tonight. They are very silky, smooth and
forgiving of harshness, which most folks like, but is not everyone's cup
of tea. Your lady would probably like them. If you like bombastic,
knock-your-socks off, rattle-your-teeth sound, these may be too tame for
you. If you like something that just plain sounds good on all source
material, you would like these. They are soo smooth that even when
cranked, are not annoying, or fatiguing. And they sound good with SS
amps, and have an amazing amount of extended bass for 8 inch speakers,
well down into the low thirties. They are in quite solidly built tower
enclosures. There is no sense of wanting more bass or a sub when
listening to them, even when running them flat. They seem to handle
quite a lot of power, so you can crank them. Upgrades are teak wood
exterior Kimber bi-wiring, Cardas binding posts and sand filled bases.
I am trying to get back to housing my entire system in the three piece
Mediterrranean style enclosures I built many years ago and these don't
fit into the scheme of things. They sit out from the wall and have the
speakers up at listening level so you can get them properly positioned
for good sound. The Radio Shack LX-8s are not even in the same league,
no comparison, the 10s will easily blow them away. Anyway, have a
look-see, if interested. I have almost talked myself into wanting to
keep them. I had someone over the other day and he just raved about
them.
http://cgi3.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewListedItems&userid=danmarshall@worldnet.att.net
Dan Marshall
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From: Paul Joppa <pdjoppa@home.com>
Subject: [JN] Re: falling woofers ...
Date: Thu, 23 Mar 2000 23:05:01 -0800
Source: Sound Digest Archive v02.n493
John Niven said:
> ...what would be the best way to design a speaker that would
> deliberately deliver a natural response that would be decreasing at
> 6dB/octave from 50Hz upward, and be usable up to 500Hz?
A large horn (cutoff << 50Hz) driven by a woofer with fs/QT = 50Hz
should do the job, if you have a spare room or two to fit the horn
into... it has to be a straight horn, not folded, to maintain good
response above 500Hz of course.
:^) Paul Joppa
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From: John Niven <jn@cypress.com>
Subject: Re: [JN] Re: falling woofers ...
Date: Fri, 24 Mar 2000 13:06:32 -0800
Source: Sound Digest Archive v02.n495
Paul (and all with an adventurous mind),
Obviously, due to the lack of a response, my question did not inspire
the list :-)
Perhaps I can explain more. The root of my thoughts were grounded in the
RIAA equilisation response. The music recorded on a LP has a response
(amongst other things) that falls off at 6db/octave from 500hz. So if
you listened to an LP, from the PU, through an amplifier that had a flat
frequency response, the bass would not be there. This would normally be
bad. However, if you feed this signal into a horn with a 500Hz cutoff,
this would be good! You already have one half of a bi-amped system with
no crossover. Now the RIAA equilisation also creates a rising response
at 6db/octave from 2122Hz. So to compensate for this I would want my
mid-range/upper horn to have a response that falls off at 6db/octave
from 2122Hz. So I just need to use a driver (cheap?) that has a poor
high frequency response and that would take care of the mids and highs.
It also occurs to me that for the mid/high frequency you could use a
small cheepo driver on an circular open baffle with a radius of 1.125 ft
which would have a cutoff of 500Hz (half the wavelength). Such a driver
may actually benefit from having its treble boosted by 6dB/octave from
2KHz. It would certainly be easy to build!
So to recap, the mids/highs come directly from the PU through an
amplifier (valve?) with a flat response from 500Hz to 2KHz and then
tailored to meet the drivers response above that (maybe flat or maybe
rolling off at 6db/octave if driver is a good one.
Now for the bass we need to take the PU output and feed it into an
amplifier/driver/loading-method with lots of gain at 50Hz but that has a
6db/octave falling response from 50Hz to compensate for the RIAA curve.
After 500Hz its response could fall off even faster. This was the start
of my previous question. I was wondering about some kind of bandpass box
only tuned to 50Hz... Would that work to 500hz?
I think of this as a system designed to play LP's with the minimum of
electronics. It seems to me that we spend to much time making speakers
with a flat response, that work with an amplifier that has a flat
response, that work with a PU preamp that then has to have a very
non-linear response! Bi-amping and no crossovers for free!
And if you must use the same system with a CD player, why not add some
compensation that makes its output look like a PU? I get the impression
that CD's tend to be this lists second choice anyway.
Put me out of my misery...point out the fatal flaw. Please.
Cheers,
John
Paul Joppa wrote:
>
> John Niven said:
> > ...what would be the best way to design a speaker that would
> > deliberately deliver a natural response that would be decreasing at
> > 6dB/octave from 50Hz upward, and be usable up to 500Hz?
>
> A large horn (cutoff << 50Hz) driven by a woofer with fs/QT = 50Hz
> should do the job, if you have a spare room or two to fit the horn
> into... it has to be a straight horn, not folded, to maintain good
> response above 500Hz of course.
>
> :^) Paul Joppa
- --
_\|/
Q John Niven (jn@cypress.com)
/ \ Staff Product Engineer
/ o\ Cypress Semiconductor
( \/ 3901 North First Street
|\ San Jose,CA 95134
| \ Telephone 408-456-1868
L L
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From: John Niven <jn@cypress.com>
Subject: Re: [JN] Re: falling woofers ...
Date: Fri, 24 Mar 2000 14:31:08 -0800
Source: Sound Digest Archive v02.n495
Roscoe,
I think you picked this up wrongly. The recorded music on the LP has a
RISING FR from 2122Hz @ 6db/octave (=20db/decade). So you need LESS gain
in the amplifier/loudspeaker as the freq increases to get a flat
response.
Keep thinking!
John :-)
Roscoe Primrose wrote:
> Well, given a 6dB/octave drop from 2122Hz to 20kHz, it takes almost 100
> times as much amplifier power at 20kHz if you don't do the RIAA EQ
> before the amp...
- --
_\|/
Q John Niven (jn@cypress.com)
/ \ Staff Product Engineer
/ o\ Cypress Semiconductor
( \/ 3901 North First Street
|\ San Jose,CA 95134
| \ Telephone 408-456-1868
L L
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From: Roscoe Primrose <roscoe@aiko.com>
Subject: Re: [JN] Re: falling woofers ...
Date: Fri, 24 Mar 2000 16:38:08 -0500
Source: Sound Digest Archive v02.n495
John Niven wrote:
Snip
>
> I think of this as a system designed to play LP's with the minimum of
> electronics. It seems to me that we spend to much time making speakers
> with a flat response, that work with an amplifier that has a flat
> response, that work with a PU preamp that then has to have a very
> non-linear response! Bi-amping and no crossovers for free!
>
> And if you must use the same system with a CD player, why not add some
> compensation that makes its output look like a PU? I get the impression
> that CD's tend to be this lists second choice anyway.
>
> Put me out of my misery...point out the fatal flaw. Please.
Well, given a 6dB/octave drop from 2122Hz to 20kHz, it takes almost 100
times as much amplifier power at 20kHz if you don't do the RIAA EQ
before the amp...
Peace
- --
Roscoe Primrose -- mailto:roscoe@aiko.com --
http://www.aiko.com/roscoe
"Once in a while you get shown the light
In the strangest of places if you look at it right." Robert Hunter
"640K ought to be enough for anybody" , Bill Gates, 1981
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From: Kurt Steffensen <kurt-steffensen@teliamail.dk>
Subject: Re: [JN] Re: falling woofers ...
Date: Sat, 25 Mar 2000 01:09:03 +0300
Source: Sound Digest Archive v02.n495
:-)
Actually , none of you is all right....
They need the same power , and more or less gain , will depend upon which you
choose for reference.
With three to choose from , you are both right..:-)
- - And you are both wrong ;-)
I will second John , keep thinking ;-)
- - Kurt ( This was a good weekend of topic )
John Niven wrote:
> Roscoe,
>
> I think you picked this up wrongly. The recorded music on the LP has a
> RISING FR from 2122Hz @ 6db/octave (=20db/decade). So you need LESS gain
> in the amplifier/loudspeaker as the freq increases to get a flat
> response.
>
> Keep thinking!
> John :-)
>
> Roscoe Primrose wrote:
>
> > Well, given a 6dB/octave drop from 2122Hz to 20kHz, it takes almost 100
> > times as much amplifier power at 20kHz if you don't do the RIAA EQ
> > before the amp...
>
> --
> _\|/
> Q John Niven (jn@cypress.com)
> / \ Staff Product Engineer
> / o\ Cypress Semiconductor
> ( \/ 3901 North First Street
> |\ San Jose,CA 95134
> | \ Telephone 408-456-1868
> L L
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From: Ed Billeci <tube@teleport.com>
Subject: [JN] FA: Lowther Medallions on ebay
Date: Sun, 7 Jan 2001 12:13:49 -0800
Source: Sound Digest Archive v02.n777
Shameless plug.
http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=1206392139
Thanks for the bandwidth.
Ed
http://www.teleport.com/~tube
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From: Jonathan Morrison <ppdiva@rcn.com>
Subject: [JN] Fanatic? Who's a fanatic? (really really off topic)
Date: Tue, 06 Jul 1999 20:39:19 -0400
Source: Sound Digest Archive v02.n197
I don't know if there are any other home coffee roasters on this list, but
if there are, I can strongly recommend the Hearthware roaster. I got one
about 2 weeks ago to replace an old Sirroco, and have been very pleased
with its results. I'm still experimenting with roasting times, but overall
it roasts much slower than the Sirroco, with a corresponding increase in
flavor depth. The Ethiopian harrar that I am using comes out very citrusy
with very high toned acidity and a little of the usual Harrar chocolate,
and the Timor decaf has a very sweet background. I am particularly
impressed by the fast bass of the Harrar.
The unit is too noisy, but that is my only complaint, and when I get the
settings right for the different roasts, with its good cooling cycle I can
just set the timer and leave the room. For $120 from www.sweetmarias.com
it's a good deal, and Tom at Sweetmarias has excellent prices on green
coffee. I figure that it will pay for itself in several months with the
savings over comparable quality coffees from $tarbucks or similar. JDM
P.S. The roasting chamber is a round glass thing, so maybe this isn't all
that far off topic...
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From: Dan Marshall <mdaniel7@uswest.net>
Subject: [JN] FA: Norelco FR Speakers
Date: Wed, 19 Jul 2000 06:38:22 -0700
Source: Sound Digest Archive v02.n607
Hi All,
Well, I decided to bail on the 12" Norelcos. They seem to be a hot item
on eBay nowdays. A pair of the next lower model (AD-5200Ms) just sold
there for $406, which I found delightfully surprising. Anyway, I want
to retain my current enclosures and they position full-range speakers
way too close to the floor for good stereo reproduction and they are of
such a style that they are not conducive to being raised to ear-level
height without becoming an eyesore, so, rather than use the Norelcos as
woofers I thought I might as well cash in on the FR craze and put some
true woofers I have to good use and use smaller satellite speakers for
the mid/top end. If interested, here is the eBay address:
http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=386135617
Dan Marshall
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From: russ arbuthnot <russ3@southern.com>
Subject: [JN] Fans
Date: Thu, 22 Feb 2001 12:37:20 -0600
Source: Sound Digest Archive v02.n815
Joe-kers,
My roommate has a pair of McIntosh 35 monoblocks (i don't know the exact
models, i'm a SE guy) with a big (6"sq.) fan blowing on each one. The fans
plug right into the monoblocks and start when you turn on the preamp. My
complaint is that they make quite a bit of noise which gets in the way of
listening. I realize that these fans might have been needed when the
system was initially installed as part of his grandmother's wall stereo or
whatever, but are they really needed now that they are upon an open
salamander style equipment rack?
This wouldn't be a problem if I could finish/finance a preamp for my
6SN7/300B amp. But until I do, his system gets a little more use because
of ease of use.
What do you guys think?
Thanks,
russ
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From: David Home <David_Home@creoscitex.com>
Subject: [JN] Fans of BG Type 'N' ?
Date: Tue, 6 Feb 2001 14:13:34 +0100
Source: Sound Digest Archive v02.n800
Hello all.
Recapping the crossovers in my Tannoy Monitor Golds. There are three in the
tweeter circuit, a 6.8uF, then a 1.5uF and then a 3.3uF shunting the
tweeter.
The bass driver has a single 16uF. Previous owner replaced all caps with
Solen, which I find too edgy for my tastes.
I replaced all with oilers and sound got much rounder and smoother, but also
slow and thick.
I was wondering if the BG type "N AC' would be worth the financial
investment. They have a 6.8uF and 15uF in the AC range. The others could be
built from the N range.
I was hoping someone would comment on the sound of these caps.
Also if the 'N' and 'NX' can take the currents of a tweeter circuit.
Regards, David
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From: Christian Rintelen <christian@rintelen.ch>
Subject: Re: [JN] Fans of BG Type 'N' ?
Date: Tue, 06 Feb 2001 14:58:29 +0100
Source: Sound Digest Archive v02.n800
David,
I have no experience with Black Gate caps in passive crossovers. However, I do
like the Mundorf tinfoil caps
<http://www.mundorf.com/english/bauteile/kondensatoren/mcap-znrechts.htm> and
I've also had good results with Hovland caps.
Christian
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From: Allen Wright <AllenVSE@compuserve.com>
Subject: [JN] Fans of BG Type 'N' ?
Date: Wed, 7 Feb 2001 05:13:44 -0500
Source: Sound Digest Archive v02.n800
david wrote:
>>> Previous owner replaced all caps with
Solen, which I find too edgy for my tastes<<<
Which Solens? They have some great caps and some sonic junk - IME.
I'm currently using their (actually the parent company - SCR) solid
tinfoil/polyprop caps in my speaker and electronics with great results. But
some of their other offerings don't sing for me.
Allen (VSE)
Then Christian has written:
>>>However, I do
like the Mundorf tinfoil caps<<<
Same thing - they are made in France by SCR and marketed under various
names around the world: Solen, Mundorf, Audyn etc. Often with the logo in
GOLD ink...
=========================================================================
From: "Jon Lane" <jhlane@reflexnet.net>
Subject: RE: [JN] Fans of BG Type 'N' ?
Date: Wed, 7 Feb 2001 07:37:54 -0700
Source: Sound Digest Archive v02.n800
> >>> Previous owner replaced all caps with
> Solen, which I find too edgy for my tastes<<<
>
> Which Solens? They have some great caps and some
> sonic junk - IME.
>
> I'm currently using their (actually the parent
> company - SCR) solid
> tinfoil/polyprop caps in my speaker and
> electronics with great results. But
> some of their other offerings don't sing for me.
>
> Allen (VSE)
>
> Then Christian has written:
>
> >>>However, I do
> like the Mundorf tinfoil caps<<<
>
> Same thing - they are made in France by SCR and
> marketed under various
> names around the world: Solen, Mundorf, Audyn
> etc. Often with the logo in
> GOLD ink...
The Axon tinfoils are quite good too. Probably a near twin
to the Solen/SCR. Distributed by Kimon Belles of ORCA
Design.
Jon Lane
=========================================================================
From: TubeGarden@aol.com
Subject: Re: [JN] Fans of BG Type 'N' ?
Date: Wed, 7 Feb 2001 12:45:22 EST
Source: Sound Digest Archive v02.n800
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In a message dated 2/7/01 3:21:53 AM US Mountain Standard Time,
AllenVSE@compuserve.com writes:
> Often with the logo in
> GOLD ink...
>
not Tin?
Happy Ears!
Al B^}
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<BR>AllenVSE@compuserve.com writes:
<BR>
<BR>
<BR><BLOCKQUOTE TYPE=CITE style="BORDER-LEFT: #0000ff 2px solid; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px
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<BR>
<BR>not Tin?
<BR>
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=========================================================================
From: "Bart Shepherd \(Home\)" <bart.s@bigpond.net.au>
Subject: RE: [JN] Fans of BG Type 'N' ?
Date: Wed, 7 Feb 2001 23:42:45 +1100
Source: Sound Digest Archive v02.n800
Hello David,
I have been thinking about this issue and would like to suggest a different
way of looking at it.
Many people think they can improve equipment by replacing components with
"better" ones or even "the best" ones.
Designers and manufacturers actually make many decisions in product design
and contrary to some opinions, not all of them based on cost.
This loudspeaker actually has a natural roll-off with frequency in the HF
horn. The "cross-over" is more than a cross-over and is actually also an HF
boost filter. This may have been tuned by ear by the designers who have had
many years of vast exerience with this very issue. The components they used
may have been imperfect but actually achieved a balanced sound.
Before doing anything else it may be perhaps wise to attempt to restore it
to original condition by only replacing components where required and doing
the replacement with new components as close to the originals as possible. I
would suggest your measure all the components and only replace those now out
of tolerance - the original capacitors may be long gone but at least check
the resistor values.
It is possible that the modifications have inadvertently boosted the HF too
much. Also check no cap values have been changed!
It may be worhwhile to contact the manufacturers and ask their
recommendation of the best replacement brand and type.
Cheers,
Bart
- -----Original Message-----
From: owner-sound@lists.io.com [mailto:owner-sound@lists.io.com]On
Behalf Of David Home
Sent: Wednesday, 7 February 2001 12:14 AM
To: Sound (E-mail)
Subject: [JN] Fans of BG Type 'N' ?
Hello all.
Recapping the crossovers in my Tannoy Monitor Golds. There are three in the
tweeter circuit, a 6.8uF, then a 1.5uF and then a 3.3uF shunting the
tweeter.
The bass driver has a single 16uF. Previous owner replaced all caps with
Solen, which I find too edgy for my tastes.
I replaced all with oilers and sound got much rounder and smoother, but also
slow and thick.
I was wondering if the BG type "N AC' would be worth the financial
investment. They have a 6.8uF and 15uF in the AC range. The others could be
built from the N range.
I was hoping someone would comment on the sound of these caps.
Also if the 'N' and 'NX' can take the currents of a tweeter circuit.
Regards, David
=========================================================================
From: Allen Wright <AllenVSE@compuserve.com>
Subject: RE: [JN] Fans of BG Type 'N' ?
Date: Thu, 8 Feb 2001 04:27:17 -0500
Source: Sound Digest Archive v02.n800
Jon wrote:
>>>The Axon tinfoils are quite good too. Probably a near twin
to the Solen/SCR. Distributed by Kimon Belles of ORCA
Design<<<
Yes - another re-lableing of the same SCR cap.
Allen (VSE)
=========================================================================
From: "Epstein, Jeremy" <JEpstein@ndbcap.com>
Subject: [JN] Fans of BG Type 'N' ?
Date: Thu, 8 Feb 2001 09:23:05 -0500
Source: Sound Digest Archive v02.n801
Note that another Solen relabel is available fairly cheaply from Angela
Instruments, www.angela.com
- -j
=========================================
Jeremy Epstein........jepstein@ndbcap.com
=========================================
=========================================================================
From: "Fred Volz" <fcv@emotiveaudio.com>
Subject: Re: [JN] Fans of BG Type 'N' ?
Date: Thu, 8 Feb 2001 09:25:57 -0500
Source: Sound Digest Archive v02.n801
Hovland MusiCaps are polypropylene and aluminum foil. Solens and SCR and
Axon caps may all roll out of the same plant, but they do not all sound the
same. By comparison, the Axon tin foil caps (are there SCR versions of these
as well?) are much nicer than the standard Axon and Solen metalized parts.
But, the Hovlands are in another class entirely from any of the
aforementioned caps. They sound MUCH better and are very well made. This is
why they are more expensive than the other caps (quality=cash).
If the proposed use for the caps in question is in a speaker crossover (and
if cost is an issue), why not try the ASC motor start caps. These are
metalized polypropylene in vegetable oil (aluminum can type). I've not used
them in a crossover yet, but have been told they sound extremely good. In
power supplies, they sound better then any other cap I've tried yet. And,
they are VERY cheap. I'm almost embarrassed to admit it, but they sound way
TOO good in coupling applications, as well.
Fred Volz
fcv@emotiveaudio.com
- ----- Original Message -----
From: "John Hancock" <John_Hancock@swissre.com>
To: <sound@lists.io.com>
Sent: Thursday, February 08, 2001 5:42 AM
Subject: RE: [JN] Fans of BG Type 'N' ?
>
>
>
> Just to be clear, I believe all of these caps are metallized
polypropylene.
> The Mundorfs that Christian is talking about are tinfoil and polypropylene
> (like the Hovlands), which have a lower electrostatic resistance. The
> Mundorfs are, by the way, quite a bit cheaper than the Hovlands, at least
> here in Europe.
>
> John
>
> Jon wrote:
> >>>The Axon tinfoils are quite good too. Probably a near twin
> to the Solen/SCR. Distributed by Kimon Belles of ORCA
> Design<<<
>
> Allen wrote:
> >Yes - another re-lableing of the same SCR cap.
>
>
=========================================================================
From: "John Hancock" <John_Hancock@swissre.com>
Subject: RE: [JN] Fans of BG Type 'N' ?
Date: Thu, 8 Feb 2001 11:42:12 +0100
Source: Sound Digest Archive v02.n801
Just to be clear, I believe all of these caps are metallized polypropylene.
The Mundorfs that Christian is talking about are tinfoil and polypropylene
(like the Hovlands), which have a lower electrostatic resistance. The
Mundorfs are, by the way, quite a bit cheaper than the Hovlands, at least
here in Europe.
John
Jon wrote:
>>>The Axon tinfoils are quite good too. Probably a near twin
to the Solen/SCR. Distributed by Kimon Belles of ORCA
Design<<<
Allen wrote:
>Yes - another re-lableing of the same SCR cap.
=========================================================================
From: "Mindaugas" <mk@is.lt>
Subject: Re: [JN] Fans of BG Type 'N' ?
Date: Thu, 8 Feb 2001 17:15:48 +0200
Source: Sound Digest Archive v02.n801
> If the proposed use for the caps in question is in a speaker crossover
(and
> if cost is an issue), why not try the ASC motor start caps. These are
> metalized polypropylene in vegetable oil (aluminum can type). I've not
used
> them in a crossover yet, but have been told they sound extremely good. In
> power supplies, they sound better then any other cap I've tried yet. And,
> they are VERY cheap. I'm almost embarrassed to admit it, but they sound
way
> TOO good in coupling applications, as well.
Any source for these?
Mindaugas
=========================================================================
From: "Jon Lane" <jhlane@reflexnet.net>
Subject: RE: [JN] Fans of BG Type 'N' ?
Date: Thu, 8 Feb 2001 17:51:29 -0700
Source: Sound Digest Archive v02.n801
> Just to be clear, I believe all of these caps are
> metallized polypropylene.
> The Mundorfs that Christian is talking about are
> tinfoil and polypropylene
> (like the Hovlands), which have a lower
> electrostatic resistance. The
> Mundorfs are, by the way, quite a bit cheaper
> than the Hovlands, at least
> here in Europe.
>
> John
>
> Jon wrote:
> >>>The Axon tinfoils are quite good too.
> Probably a near twin
> to the Solen/SCR. Distributed by Kimon Belles of ORCA
> Design<<<
>
> Allen wrote:
> >Yes - another re-lableing of the same SCR cap.
Actually, the Axon tinfoil *is* tinfoil - they're far
heavier than the standard black metalized caps. They are
white in color, have solid copper leads, and sound quite
relaxed and spacious. You may have to check with ORCA for
the details.
Jon Lane
=========================================================================
From: "Bart Shepherd \(Home\)" <bart.s@bigpond.net.au>
Subject: RE: [JN] Fans of BG Type 'N' ?
Date: Fri, 9 Feb 2001 17:44:12 +1100
Source: Sound Digest Archive v02.n801
I used to use these Axon tinfoils as couplers in my 211 amp. ( 6SN7 to 6SN7
(parallel, no smear ) cathode follower ).
Changed to Hovland which I much prefer ( Axom very clean and extended but
Hovland better, richer harmonic sructure somehow )
Both 0.2uf
YMMV
Cheers,
Bart
- -----Original Message-----
From: owner-sound@lists.io.com [mailto:owner-sound@lists.io.com]On
Behalf Of Jon Lane
Sent: Friday, 9 February 2001 11:51 AM
To: sound@lists.io.com
Subject: RE: [JN] Fans of BG Type 'N' ?
> Just to be clear, I believe all of these caps are
> metallized polypropylene.
> The Mundorfs that Christian is talking about are
> tinfoil and polypropylene
> (like the Hovlands), which have a lower
> electrostatic resistance. The
> Mundorfs are, by the way, quite a bit cheaper
> than the Hovlands, at least
> here in Europe.
>
> John
>
> Jon wrote:
> >>>The Axon tinfoils are quite good too.
> Probably a near twin
> to the Solen/SCR. Distributed by Kimon Belles of ORCA
> Design<<<
>
> Allen wrote:
> >Yes - another re-lableing of the same SCR cap.
Actually, the Axon tinfoil *is* tinfoil - they're far
heavier than the standard black metalized caps. They are
white in color, have solid copper leads, and sound quite
relaxed and spacious. You may have to check with ORCA for
the details.
Jon Lane
=========================================================================
From: David Home <David_Home@creoscitex.com>
Subject: RE: [JN] Fans of BG Type 'N' ?
Date: Fri, 9 Feb 2001 22:39:29 +0100
Source: Sound Digest Archive v02.n802
Hello Allen.
I have tried various types of aluminum foil types. SCR, Solen and Avon
branded.
I am glad to hear that you have had good results with the tinfoil types, I
was wondering how these sounded too.
I believe that the tinfoil SCR caps largest size is 1.5uF. My speakers need
a 1.5uF but also a 3.3uF and more difficultly a 6.8uF and a 16uF. So the BGs
look quite appealing in the larger sizes...
Regards, David
- -----Original Message-----
From: Allen Wright [mailto:AllenVSE@compuserve.com]
Sent: Wednesday, February 07, 2001 11:14 AM
To: AAJoeNet
Subject: [JN] Fans of BG Type 'N' ?
david wrote:
>>> Previous owner replaced all caps with
Solen, which I find too edgy for my tastes<<<
Which Solens? They have some great caps and some sonic junk - IME.
I'm currently using their (actually the parent company - SCR) solid
tinfoil/polyprop caps in my speaker and electronics with great results. But
some of their other offerings don't sing for me.
Allen (VSE)
Then Christian has written:
>>>However, I do
like the Mundorf tinfoil caps<<<
Same thing - they are made in France by SCR and marketed under various
names around the world: Solen, Mundorf, Audyn etc. Often with the logo in
GOLD ink...
=========================================================================
From: David Home <David_Home@creoscitex.com>
Subject: RE: [JN] Fans of BG Type 'N' ?
Date: Sun, 11 Feb 2001 21:04:11 +0100
Source: Sound Digest Archive v02.n803
Thanks for the thoughts Bart.
The previous owner replaced all the original caps with Solens, but I would
guess that the smaller caps were film and the larger sizes non polar
electrolytics. I Would not dream of changing values!
I understrand the functioning of this crossover and the wisdom of respecting
the original engineers choices.
Regards, David
- -----Original Message-----
From: Bart Shepherd (Home) [mailto:bart.s@bigpond.net.au]
Sent: Wednesday, February 07, 2001 1:43 PM
To: David Home; Sound (E-mail)
Subject: RE: [JN] Fans of BG Type 'N' ?
Hello David,
I have been thinking about this issue and would like to suggest a different
way of looking at it.
Many people think they can improve equipment by replacing components with
"better" ones or even "the best" ones.
Designers and manufacturers actually make many decisions in product design
and contrary to some opinions, not all of them based on cost.
This loudspeaker actually has a natural roll-off with frequency in the HF
horn. The "cross-over" is more than a cross-over and is actually also an HF
boost filter. This may have been tuned by ear by the designers who have had
many years of vast exerience with this very issue. The components they used
may have been imperfect but actually achieved a balanced sound.
Before doing anything else it may be perhaps wise to attempt to restore it
to original condition by only replacing components where required and doing
the replacement with new components as close to the originals as possible. I
would suggest your measure all the components and only replace those now out
of tolerance - the original capacitors may be long gone but at least check
the resistor values.
It is possible that the modifications have inadvertently boosted the HF too
much. Also check no cap values have been changed!
It may be worhwhile to contact the manufacturers and ask their
recommendation of the best replacement brand and type.
Cheers,
Bart
- -----Original Message-----
From: owner-sound@lists.io.com [mailto:owner-sound@lists.io.com]On
Behalf Of David Home
Sent: Wednesday, 7 February 2001 12:14 AM
To: Sound (E-mail)
Subject: [JN] Fans of BG Type 'N' ?
Hello all.
Recapping the crossovers in my Tannoy Monitor Golds. There are three in the
tweeter circuit, a 6.8uF, then a 1.5uF and then a 3.3uF shunting the
tweeter.
The bass driver has a single 16uF. Previous owner replaced all caps with
Solen, which I find too edgy for my tastes.
I replaced all with oilers and sound got much rounder and smoother, but also
slow and thick.
I was wondering if the BG type "N AC' would be worth the financial
investment. They have a 6.8uF and 15uF in the AC range. The others could be
built from the N range.
I was hoping someone would comment on the sound of these caps.
Also if the 'N' and 'NX' can take the currents of a tweeter circuit.
Regards, David
=========================================================================
From: longrie@mmace.nrl.navy.mil
Subject: [JN] Fantasia 2000
Date: Mon, 06 Mar 2000 10:43:14 +0000
Source: Sound Digest Archive v02.n475
>From: Kurt Steffensen <kurt-steffensen@teliamail.dk>:
>
>Steve Bench has sent me a CD soundtrack ( new ) , with Disney's "Fantasia
>2000".....( Thanks a lot , Steve :-)
>You can count on that I will play that for the guys..
>The recording is probably meant for cinema use , but it is really good , and
>it delivers some of the most impressing sub bass , I have ever heard....
>With my new amplifiers the whole house is literally shaking....!!
>
>A scaring experience....Ask my neighbours..........;-)
>
>I hope you all had a nice weekend.
>
>- - Five months to go :-)
>
>- - Kurt
Hi Kurt,
I concur with your comments on the Fantasia 2000 CD, and of course,
also with gratitude to Steve Bench. Most gracious and capable fellow.
Steve has also sent a copy of the Fantasia 2000 limited edition CD
here. Our little Washington tube society will hear some excerpts
from this CD in our March gathering.
I have listened to F 2000 on my modest hi fi system and the music
is surely astounding. Great dynamics and range. Have a house dog
who is usually hard to motivate. During one quiet passage there
came a tremendous bass drum thwack. Dog leaped up and ran out of
the room, looking back frightfully. That has never happened before,
and I tend to play things loud. Very startling even to one who knows
it is coming. There are also some very deep notes that my system
can only hint at. Am looking forward to hearing this through some fine
systems. Thanks again, Steve, we'll report in.
respectfully
gary
"If I have seen further than my peers,
it is because I have stood on their toes."
=========================================================================
From: "blackcat electronics" <blackcat.e@virgin.net>
Subject: [JN] FAO Ross Lahlum
Date: Thu, 24 Jun 1999 21:11:37 +0100
Source: Sound Digest Archive v02.n187
Sorry to everyone !
Ross,
Please get in touch...all my messages are being bounced.
Graham.
blackcat electronics
blackcat.e@virgin.net
01253 855294 UK
=========================================================================
From: "Daniel J. Marshall" <danmarshall@worldnet.att.net>
Subject: [JN] FA: Peerless PT, KT88, GZ34s, Radios, etc.
Date: Fri, 19 May 2000 13:48:08 -0700
Source: Sound Digest Archive v02.n552
Hi All,
Have a look, if interested in any of the above. Its all in nice cond.
http://cgi6.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewListedItems&userid=danmarshall@worldnet.att.net
DM
=========================================================================
From: rfrancis@glasscity.net
Subject: [JN] FA: PP OPT, Tubes, Manuals, more
Date: Wed, 12 Apr 2000 19:31:35 -0700
Source: Sound Digest Archive v02.n518
I listed a bunch of stuff on ebay. So shoot me.
Or go take a look at:
http://cgi3.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?MfcISAPICommand=ViewListedItems&userid=tubino
There's a nice PP OPT that will go cheap, methinks. I plan to
put a lot more stuff up there -- but if you come to Toledo (it's
GOTTA be closer than Hoboken for SOMEONE!) I'll fix you up right
square. Anyone need a transformer with two 12vct windings, 2.5A
each?
Thanks for looking!
Rick
- -----
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=========================================================================
From: David Crittle <retrovox@bigpond.com>
Subject: [JN] FA: PP OPT, Tubes, Manuals, more
Date: Thu, 13 Apr 2000 13:33:01 +1000
Source: Sound Digest Archive v02.n518
>From: rfrancis@glasscity.net
>To: Sound@io.com
>I listed a bunch of stuff on ebay. So shoot me.
>
>Or go take a look at:
>http://cgi3.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?MfcISAPICommand=ViewListedItems&useri
>d=tubino
Better make that two bullets. Hey Joe......wygwtgiyh
http://cgi6.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewListedItems&userid=retrovox
shows my current listing, may even contain some useful items! It's really
starting to pile up down here, I will never ever possibly use all the
components accumulated. I'm clearing a lot of excess tubes of all types
right now.
David Crittle
____________________________
Visit the Retrovox Where?house at
http://www.users.bigpond.com/retrovox
____________________________
Some pics at
http://albums.photopoint.com/j/AlbumList?u=149682
____________________________
If you never did, you should. These things are fun, and fun is good.
(Dr Seuess)
=========================================================================
From: pitoyo@avebe.com.sg
Subject: [JN] FA: PP OPT, Tubes, Manuals, more
Date: Fri, 14 Apr 2000 09:25:53 +0800
Source: Sound Digest Archive v02.n520
>From: rfrancis@glasscity.net
>To: Sound@io.com
>I listed a bunch of stuff on ebay. So shoot me.
>
>Or go take a look at:
>http://cgi3.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?MfcISAPICommand=ViewListedItems&useri
>d=tubino
Better make that two bullets. Hey Joe......wygwtgiyh
http://cgi6.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewListedItems&userid=retrovox
shows my current listing, may even contain some useful items! It's really
starting to pile up down here, I will never ever possibly use all the
components accumulated. I'm clearing a lot of excess tubes of all types
right now.
David Crittle
____________________________
Visit the Retrovox Where?house at
http://www.users.bigpond.com/retrovox
____________________________
Some pics at
http://albums.photopoint.com/j/AlbumList?u=149682
____________________________
If you never did, you should. These things are fun, and fun is good.
(Dr Seuess)
=========================================================================
From: "Ed Coleman" <ecoleman@whidbey.net>
Subject: Re: [JN] FA: PP OPT, Tubes, Manuals, more and more!
Date: Wed, 12 Apr 2000 21:06:29 -0700
Source: Sound Digest Archive v02.n518
Hey Joes,where ya going with that Gattling gun ? (shoot me too!)
I have stuff on ebay too.
7591 vacuum tube
>http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=302248726
Dynaco tube tuner FM-3
http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=303926655
thanks Ed
- -----Original Message-----
From: David Crittle <retrovox@bigpond.com>
To: sound@lists.io.com <sound@lists.io.com>
Date: Wednesday, April 12, 2000 8:32 PM
Subject: [JN] FA: PP OPT, Tubes, Manuals, more
>>From: rfrancis@glasscity.net
>>To: Sound@io.com
>>I listed a bunch of stuff on ebay. So shoot me.
>>
>>Or go take a look at:
>>http://cgi3.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?MfcISAPICommand=ViewListedItems&
useri
>>d=tubino
>
>
>Better make that two bullets. Hey Joe......wygwtgiyh
>
>http://cgi6.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewListedItems&userid=retrovox
>
>shows my current listing, may even contain some useful items! It's really
>starting to pile up down here, I will never ever possibly use all the
>components accumulated. I'm clearing a lot of excess tubes of all types
>right now.
>
>David Crittle
>____________________________
>Visit the Retrovox Where?house at
>http://www.users.bigpond.com/retrovox
>____________________________
>Some pics at
>http://albums.photopoint.com/j/AlbumList?u=149682
>____________________________
>If you never did, you should. These things are fun, and fun is good.
>(Dr Seuess)
>
>
=========================================================================
From: Jeff Mai <j.mai.lists@home.com>
Subject: [JN] FA - RCA MI-9449 15 inch woofer - Alnico
Date: Mon, 19 Mar 2001 07:28:06 -0700
Source: Sound Digest Archive v02.n837
Thought some of you might be interested in this woofer I'm auctioning:
http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=1221955949
As of this email, the bid is at $27 which is very cheap! Less than
two days are left on the auction.
Thanks for the BW.
Jeff
=========================================================================
From: "Aaron Bohnen" <bohnen@unixg.ubc.ca>
Subject: [JN] FA: regulated high voltage supplies on Ebay...
Date: Sat, 4 Dec 1999 16:08:45 -0800
Source: Sound Digest Archive v02.n354
Hi everyone,
I'm really concentrating on lightening my audio-related equipment load
before the spectre of having to move in June.
I've put a couple of high voltage supplies up on Ebay:
One is a Kefco 0-500 VDC @ 150 mA also has 6.3 VAC heater supply:
http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=213978226
The second one is a Lambda #71 0-500 VDC @ 200 mA, 0-200 VDC bias, 6.3
VAC @ 10 A heaters. Both are adjustable, regulated, etc.:
http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=213989101
Thanks!
Aaron
___________________________________________________________
Aaron Bohnen email: bohnen@unixg.ubc.ca
- -Ph.D. Student, Civil Engineering Department, U.B.C.
- -website: http://www.civil.ubc.ca/home/bohnen
=========================================================================
From: "PEARL Cust Serv" <custserv@pearl-hifi.com>
Subject: [JN] FAR off topic - was: Worlds Cheapest OPT
Date: Mon, 05 Jun 2000 17:42:54 -0600
Source: Sound Digest Archive v02.n566
TubeGarden Commented
> robert.m.danielak@lmco.com writes:
>
>> term "trannie".
>>>> could be transformer or transmission....
>>> or transistor...
> . . . or a former guy who had a "lopitoffofme."
> Happy Ears!
> Al B^}
Fyi, they don't "lopitoff", they turn it outside in.
Bill - PEARL, Inc.
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From: "PEARL Cust Serv" <custserv@pearl-hifi.com>
Subject: Re: [JN] FAR off topic - was: Worlds Cheapest OPT
Date: Mon, 05 Jun 2000 20:49:55 -0600
Source: Sound Digest Archive v02.n567
Happy ears wrote:
>
> OK, but first they take the insides out - ouch!
>
> Happy Ears and other parts!
Now *that's* funny . . . lol
> Al B^}
BP
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From: TubeGarden@aol.com
Subject: Re: [JN] FAR off topic - was: Worlds Cheapest OPT
Date: Mon, 5 Jun 2000 22:06:36 EDT
Source: Sound Digest Archive v02.n567
In a message dated 6/5/00 4:45:30 PM US Mountain Standard Time,
custserv@pearl-hifi.com writes:
> they turn it outside in.
OK, but first they take the insides out - ouch!
Happy Ears and other parts!
Al B^}
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From: William Hunt <wjhunt@ccnet.com>
Subject: [JN] fast bass?
Date: Mon, 01 Feb 1999 23:35:23 -0800
Source: Sound Digest Archive v02.n021
A comment on the subject of fast bass.
I have 3 way speakers with an active crossover ahead of the power amps.
The bass to mid crossover is about 325 Hz with a 24 dB / octive slope.
The crossover has on/off switches for each driver - very useful for
verifying that everything is hooked up as it should be. Several times I
have turned off the mid and high frequency drivers and just listened to
the bass drivers. The result is always a bit shocking - quite muddy,
indistinct sound with no transients. Even bass sounds like drums and
double bass strings sound muddy and hard to identify. Boy, that is slow
bass. Of course, the bass sounds quite good when all drivers are
playing.
This isn't a profound experiment but it does illustrate a basic idea:
an high frequency transients are being routed to the mid and high
frequency drivers.
As a description of a physical effect, fast bass sounds like a
contradiction. The phrase can't mean what the words suggest so it means
something else. But it is really just poetry rather than a description
of reality.
Bill Hunt
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From: Mattijs de Vries <mdevries@avvt.com>
Subject: Re: [JN] fast bass?
Date: Tue, 02 Feb 1999 10:17:53 -0100
Source: Sound Digest Archive v02.n021
Hello Bill (and others),
>I have 3 way speakers with an active crossover ahead of the power amps.
>The bass to mid crossover is about 325 Hz with a 24 dB / octive slope.
I think your problem lies here already. Active crossovers also have a
transient response. If not proper designed they can work very good and give
lineair frequency response, but they can have very bad transients. I
experimented a lot with my active two way system, with the bass (JBL 2226
frontloaded with a horn and backloaded with bassreflex) cut off at 150 Hz.
I tried many different filter approaches, 4th order, 3rd order, both Bessel
and Butterworth settings. The fourth order I never could get to work, third
order only one way. I came out with a cascade of three first order filters
which works very well. My bass is very fast, even without the top
frquencies. Big japanese drums really sound like membranes and the bass has
punch (you can feel it) even at very low sound levels.
Of course this also needs good cables (van den Hul Revelation) and a good
poweramplifier (Modified Aaron 3) to control it. Also the bass cabinet has
to be proper designed, this also can make a very big differenece... If you
have bass reflex, sometime s damping the pipes very lightly will make an
improvement. If that is the case, you know someone has flunked again and
designed a bass cabinet at Butterworth quality... Very nice for midisets,
but for high end audio really no good, unfortunately it is done very often
(when do they learn...)...
>This isn't a profound experiment but it does illustrate a basic idea:
>an high frequency transients are being routed to the mid and high
>frequency drivers.
Of course they are, the sound is not only the basic frequency. The sound is
made by the basic frequency with a spectrum of higher harmonics. What else
would make the difference between a violine and a voice doing the same
tone. You cannot see the basic frqeuncy seperate from the rest. It is thus
the case of getting the whole spectrum fast, at the same time and with good
quality at your listening place. If everything is right, you're there.
Being pushed in the couch by a very tight and fast bass playing is a great
experience!
Have fun,
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From: "Ian McPhail" <i.mcphail@rmit.EDU.AU>
Subject: [JN] re: fast bass
Date: Thu, 17 Feb 2000 11:10:43 +1000
Source: Sound Digest Archive v02.n450
For the last few Australian Rules Football Grand Finals, an F18
comes in low over Melbourne then stands on its tail over the arena
and proceeds to disappear vertically, very quickly and very loudly.
I live several miles from the event, the bass even from here is
awesome, unfortunately going supersonic over the city is not
allowed.
regards Ian
Ian McPhail i.mcphail@rmit.edu.au
RMIT Chem and Met Eng Dept 110
GPO Box 2476V
Melbourne 3001
Australia
tel +61 3 9925 2408
tel +61 3 9925 3326
fax +61 3 9925 3746
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From: TubeGarden@aol.com
Subject: Re: [JN] re: fast bass
Date: Thu, 17 Feb 2000 10:02:22 EST
Source: Sound Digest Archive v02.n451
GJN!
My latest
AXIS: BOLD AS LOVE
Feng Shui speaker array has the tweeters firing East/West, The double back to
back series mids firing Up/Down (omni!) and the woofers firing North/South.
I have made it to Seggun Bass!
Scoring Position!
Happy Ears!
Al B^}
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From: "Jon Lane" <jhlane@email.msn.com>
Subject: RE: [JN] re: fast bass
Date: Mon, 21 Feb 2000 20:33:01 -0700
Source: Sound Digest Archive v02.n458
> GJN!
LOL!
Jon
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From: Martin Seddon <mseddon@iinet.net.au>
Subject: [JN] fast motorbikes and chasing girls
Date: Tue, 30 Nov 1999 19:33:35 +0000
Source: Sound Digest Archive v02.n348
Joes,
Here I am, hotel room in Melbourne, plugged into joenet, learning the arcane
secrets of the twilight zone - and listening on a Toshiba laptop.
Now anyone who's got a Toshiba knows it's the most excruciating audio device
ever invented, after tinnitus. But Putamayo's Cuba is playing and I'm
snapping fingers - rythmm, pace - yeah! Which just goes to show.
Just to colour in some of the characters (and sounds) around, I was kindly
invited by one Hugh Dean to visit last Sunday. An affable fellow and true
gentleman, as you would guess, living in unhurried audio harmony, with
friends and family drifting in and out.
So thus the Glass Harmony, a remarkable 2 stage 6SL7 input/mosfet output
machine. 'Joe buys a Krell'. No, I've never heard a Krell, it's just how I
imagine that kind of authority. It boogies - so this is fast bass, I
grinned. And sweet too.
Well I hope Hugh sticks a boiler plate on the front and sells them for 20
grand a-piece. Not as much fun as fast motorbikes and chasing girls, says
Hugh, but quite acceptable, at our age.
Yes, indeed. Thanks, Hugh.
Martin
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From: TubeGarden@aol.com
Subject: Re: [JN] fast motorbikes and chasing girls
Date: Tue, 30 Nov 1999 07:15:19 EST
Source: Sound Digest Archive v02.n349
In a message dated 11/30/99 4:44:25 AM US Mountain Standard Time,
mseddon@iinet.net.au writes:
> Not as much fun as fast motorbikes and chasing girls, says
> Hugh, but quite acceptable, at our age.
Greets Jeets Neets,
I still have my brand new, then, 1969 BSA 750cc Rocket 3.
And I chased her 'til she caught me :)
These are some of the dreams the music floats me thru...
Happy Ears!
Al B^}
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From: "PEARL Cust Serv" <custserv@pearl-hifi.com>
Subject: Re: [JN] fast motorbikes and chasing girls
Date: Tue, 30 Nov 1999 09:25:15 -0700
Source: Sound Digest Archive v02.n349
> Greets Jeets Neets,
>
> I still have my brand new, then, 1969 BSA 750cc Rocket 3.
HEY ! ! ! I had one of those too . . . . with the "Buck Rogers"
mufflers, what a sound ! ! !
God, I was all of 19 and short of dual quad hemis it was the fastest
thing on the road to 115mph.
What I bike and how I **wish** I still had mine . . . No brakes though,
and that CLUTCH, my left hand looked liked a transplant from Godzilla
> And I chased her 'til she caught me :)
>
> These are some of the dreams the music floats me thru...
>
> Happy Ears!
> Al B^}
Bill - PEARL, Inc.
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From: Scott Walters <sfwalters@worldnet.att.net>
Subject: Re: [JN] fast motorbikes and chasing girls
Date: Tue, 30 Nov 1999 20:34:28 -0500
Source: Sound Digest Archive v02.n349
Mine was a 65 Triumph 650 Trophy, and in the same stable an 87 Harley
FLST-C; Blue and Creme S&S Super Andrews cam And Paughco Fishtails.
The Trumpet had grit, The hog had command authority, She had red hair
and was shopping for a convent...
> > And I chased her 'til she caught me :)
> >
Scott
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From: Tim_Bailey@medibank.com.au
Subject: Re: [JN] fast motorbikes and chasing girls
Date: Wed, 1 Dec 1999 16:21:12 +1100
Source: Sound Digest Archive v02.n349
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, sfwalters@worldnet.att.net re 'bikes;
mine were:
A Bultaco 250 single (2stroke) sports racer and,
one of those murderous 'kawakasaki' Mach 111 500's
the original one with the "$%#@&^*! what was that! power curve", and the weird
handling!
I eventually decided that 'bikes and I were not a good combo. I was a rock
climber from 14 and, I was also an infantryman at one time! (Grunt, grunt).
Girls didn't see you doing these things then.
But the 'soldiering' and 'bikes' came, LATER.
'Older' Oz Joenetters might remember a lady called Pat Firnman on TV, in an
early black and white local edition of
'Beauty and the Beast'. That was what 'she' looked like, but in school
uniform. The local CofE girls grammar school (Episcopalian in Nth Am) sent
some girls to join the cathedral choir I was in. I was 17. BAMMM!
I'm married, 20 years this June, two boys one soon 18, and I still turn around.
A Duke, famously wild in his younger days, was asked on his 100th birthday
whether he still enjoyed 'the ladies'. 'Ahem, Still enjoy noticing a trim
ankle, yes, .......... by jove, I'm damned if I can remember why!'
regards
Tim B
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From: Scott Walters <sfwalters@worldnet.att.net>
Subject: Re: [JN] fast motorbikes and chasing girls
Date: Wed, 01 Dec 1999 11:21:54 -0500
Source: Sound Digest Archive v02.n350
Tim,
I'll call your Bultaco with a Can-AM 250. Lots of fun, even in
snow! As for the Kawi 500 Triple mine was orange and I had a love
hate relationship with the "Wobble Demon Knob" on the triple tree. I
loved to try and figure out if it really helped and it hated being
messed with.
I also used to go rock climbing in Joshua Tree, Southern Cal and
still have some of the scars on my hands from it. I did this while in
the service of my country, USMC. I wasn't however a ground pounder.
I was an enlisted Crew Chief / Plane Captain on Sikorsky CH-53
helicopters all models A through E. Now with a wife who is a nurse
and three kids; two daughters and a son, I don't even own a rope and I
never go anywhere with less than four wheels.
Scott
Tim_Bailey@medibank.com.au wrote:
>
> A Bultaco 250 single (2stroke) sports racer and,
>
> one of those murderous 'kawakasaki' Mach 111 500's
> the original one with the "$%#@&^*! what was that! power curve", and the weird
> handling!
>
> I eventually decided that 'bikes and I were not a good combo. I was a rock
> climber from 14 and, I was also an infantryman at one time! (Grunt, grunt).
> Girls didn't see you doing these things then.
>
> But the 'soldiering' and 'bikes' came, LATER.
>
> 'Older' Oz Joenetters might remember a lady called Pat Firnman on TV, in an
> early black and white local edition of
> 'Beauty and the Beast'. That was what 'she' looked like, but in school
> uniform. The local CofE girls grammar school (Episcopalian in Nth Am) sent
> some girls to join the cathedral choir I was in. I was 17. BAMMM!
>
> I'm married, 20 years this June, two boys one soon 18, and I still turn around.
>
> A Duke, famously wild in his younger days, was asked on his 100th birthday
> whether he still enjoyed 'the ladies'. 'Ahem, Still enjoy noticing a trim
> ankle, yes, .......... by jove, I'm damned if I can remember why!'
>
> regards
> Tim B
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From: Scott Walters <sfwalters@worldnet.att.net>
Subject: Re: [JN] fast motorbikes and chasing girls
Date: Wed, 01 Dec 1999 17:17:49 -0500
Source: Sound Digest Archive v02.n350
Tim,
I'll call your Bultaco with a Can-AM 250. Lots of fun, even in
snow! As for the Kawi 500 Triple mine was orange and I had a love
hate relationship with the "Wobble Demon Knob" on the triple tree. I
loved to try and figure out if it really helped and it hated being
messed with.
I also used to go rock climbing in Joshua Tree, Southern Cal and
still have some of the scars on my hands from it. I did this while in
the service of my country, USMC. I wasn't however a ground pounder.
I was an enlisted Crew Chief / Plane Captain on Sikorsky CH-53
helicopters all models A through E. Now with a wife who is a nurse
and three kids; two daughters and a son, I don't even own a rope and I
never go anywhere with less than four wheels.
Scott
Tim_Bailey@medibank.com.au wrote:
>
> A Bultaco 250 single (2stroke) sports racer and,
>
> one of those murderous 'kawakasaki' Mach 111 500's
> the original one with the "$%#@&^*! what was that! power curve", and the weird
> handling!
>
> I eventually decided that 'bikes and I were not a good combo. I was a rock
> climber from 14 and, I was also an infantryman at one time! (Grunt, grunt).
> Girls didn't see you doing these things then.
>
> But the 'soldiering' and 'bikes' came, LATER.
>
> 'Older' Oz Joenetters might remember a lady called Pat Firnman on TV, in an
> early black and white local edition of
> 'Beauty and the Beast'. That was what 'she' looked like, but in school
> uniform. The local CofE girls grammar school (Episcopalian in Nth Am) sent
> some girls to join the cathedral choir I was in. I was 17. BAMMM!
>
> I'm married, 20 years this June, two boys one soon 18, and I still turn around.
>
> A Duke, famously wild in his younger days, was asked on his 100th birthday
> whether he still enjoyed 'the ladies'. 'Ahem, Still enjoy noticing a trim
> ankle, yes, .......... by jove, I'm damned if I can remember why!'
>
> regards
> Tim B
=========================================================================
From: "Daniel J. Marshall" <danmarshall@worldnet.att.net>
Subject: [JN] FA: TAD, Altec Drivers, Horns, SE Amps
Date: Fri, 16 Jun 2000 09:15:45 -0700
Source: Sound Digest Archive v02.n581
Hi All,
Good stuff on eBay, all in excellent condition.
.
Pair of TAD TD-2001 HF drivers
Pair of Altec H-808 tar-filled multi-cellular horns
Pair TAD 1601b 15" drivers
Pair of 12" Altec woofers
Pair of older 8" mid-bass drivers (I think they are JBLs)
Pair of tweaked Heath SE 6BQ5 amps
http://cgi6.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewListedItems&userid=danmarshall@worldnet.att.net
OK, so I pussed out again (with regard to building larger enclosures,
just don't have the energy anymore).
Dan Marshall
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From: Dan Marshall <mdaniel7@uswest.net>
Subject: [JN] FA: TAD TL-1601 15" Woofer
Date: Fri, 14 Jul 2000 20:52:41 -0700
Source: Sound Digest Archive v02.n604
http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=381752164
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From: analogtubeaudio@t-online.de (Robert Graetke)
Subject: [JN] ***FA: Telefunken quad EL 34 (6CA7) NOS ***
Date: Fri, 03 Dec 1999 00:49:02 +0100
Source: Sound Digest Archive v02.n352
http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=211224511
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From: Power.Ralph@epamail.epa.gov
Subject: [JN] Father's Day present
Date: Mon, 11 Jun 2001 12:10:25 -0400
Source: Sound Digest Archive v02.n907
Hi All,
I just bought myself an early Father's Day present.
WalMart has a 6 disc and a 10 disc CD changer that plays through your
car radio (FM modulator) for $99.85 everyday, so take your pick. The 10
disc changer holds more CDs, but is physically larger, so check your
mounting places before choosing. I figured for $99, how could I go wrong.
I bought the 10 disc changer for my truck and had to mount it on the hump
since it wouldn't fit anywhere else. Looks OK, but not cool. Installation
was pretty easy after I figured out where I was going to mount it.
It's made in China (of course), and the changer mechanism seems fairly
robust, at least I haven't had any burps yet. The sound was a little harsh
at
first but seems to be mellowing out some now. There is an annoying
whistling
during quiet spots at low levels when the volume is very high, but at
normal
listening levels it's not audible. The whistle is there even when the
engine is
not running, so it's not the alternator.
But I'm really enjoying having lots of good, high fidelity tunes while I'm
driving,
so it's clearly a good present to me and well worth it.
My 2 cents,
Ralph Power
Computer Sciences Corp.
USEPA, Athens, GA
(706) 355-8410
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From: Rick Francis <rfrancis@glasscity.net>
Subject: [JN] FA: Transformers, including pair of UTC S-40
Date: Fri, 30 Jun 2000 22:53:02 -0400
Source: Sound Digest Archive v02.n593
I have 5 transformers (so far) for sale on ebay, and that includes a
pair of UTC S-40s. I'll add more stuff as I can, including pairs of
chokes and more power transformers. The baby needs shoes.
http://cgi6.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewListedItems&userid=tubino
Thanks for the bandwidth,
Rick Francis
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From: Dan Marshall <mdaniel7@uswest.net>
Subject: [JN] FA: Tubes
Date: Mon, 11 Dec 2000 15:26:59 +0000
Source: Sound Digest Archive v02.n757
Hi All,
I have some tubes listed on eBay, closing in the next day or two. A Lab
matched pr of Mullard 6BQ5s, two very carefully matched pair of NOS
6B4Gs and some 6JE6/6LQ6s. Will likely list more later.
Dan Marshall
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From: AnnaLogg@aol.com
Subject: [JN] Faux pas . . .
Date: Tue, 23 Feb 1999 12:26:00 EST
Source: Sound Digest Archive v02.n057
In a message dated 2/23/99 10:45:25 AM Eastern Standard Time, Anna Logg wrote:
> things a 'gourmet' would relish: hors d'oeuvre (also, canape), a la mode (as
> in "pie a la mode"), croissant, l'aissez faire
*l'aissez faire* ??? Pardonnez moi, not something one eats <giggle!>. Meant to
put this under "political" expressions. (Probably was thinking of "eclair" .
. Mmmmm.)
Well, don't want to start another cause celebre . . . ;-)
Au revoir,
Anna
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From: "PEARL Cust Serv" <custserv@pearl-hifi.com>
Subject: Re: [JN] Faux pas . . .
Date: Tue, 23 Feb 1999 14:08:07 -0700
Source: Sound Digest Archive v02.n057
> In a message dated 2/23/99 10:45:25 AM Eastern Standard Time, Anna Logg wrote:
>
>> things a 'gourmet' would relish: hors d'oeuvre (also, canape), a la mode (as
>> in "pie a la mode"), croissant, l'aissez faire
>
> *l'aissez faire* ??? Pardonnez moi, not something one eats <giggle!>. Meant to
> put this under "political" expressions. (Probably was thinking of "eclair" .
> . Mmmmm.)
>
> Well, don't want to start another cause celebre . . . ;-)
>
> Au revoir,
> Anna
- ------------------------
Big fun. .
Murky buckets ! ! !
Bill - PEARL
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From: Daniel Normolle <monk@umich.edu>
Subject: [JN] Favorite Ellington
Date: Wed, 28 Apr 1999 09:38:02 -0400
Source: Sound Digest Archive v02.n134
In case you have trouble choosing a record to play tomorrow, I post my
list of favorite Ellington disks. Your mileage will certainly vary, as there
is so much to choose from:
Blanton-Webster Band
Black, Brown & Beige
Live at Fargo
Small Ellington Units
Such Sweet Thunder
Back to Back
Side by Side
Ellington & Coleman Hawkins
Ellington & Coltrane
1956 Newport Concert
Far East Suite
Ella's Ellington Songbook
Money Jungle
And His Mother Called Him Bill
Great Paris Concert
Duke's Big Four
This One's for Blanton
dpn
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From: "Phil Sieg" <psieg@nxs.net>
Subject: Re: [JN] Favorite Ellington
Date: Wed, 28 Apr 1999 10:38:45 -0400
Source: Sound Digest Archive v02.n134
Daniel,
Great list! May I add "Blues in Orbit" and "Ellington Indigos". But
really, we're talking Duke and it's almost impossible to go wrong.
Phil
- ----- Original Message -----
From: Daniel Normolle <monk@umich.edu>
To: <sound@io.com>
Sent: 28 April, 1999 09.38
Subject: [JN] Favorite Ellington
> In case you have trouble choosing a record to play tomorrow, I post my
> list of favorite Ellington disks. Your mileage will certainly vary, as
there
> is so much to choose from:
>
> Blanton-Webster Band
> Black, Brown & Beige
> Live at Fargo
> Small Ellington Units
> Such Sweet Thunder
> Back to Back
> Side by Side
> Ellington & Coleman Hawkins
> Ellington & Coltrane
> 1956 Newport Concert
> Far East Suite
> Ella's Ellington Songbook
> Money Jungle
> And His Mother Called Him Bill
> Great Paris Concert
> Duke's Big Four
> This One's for Blanton
>
> dpn
>
>
>
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From: Steve Berger <aprilsound@earthlink.net>
Subject: Re: [JN] Favorite Ellington OH LUCKY ME!
Date: Wed, 28 Apr 1999 10:22:09 -0400
Source: Sound Digest Archive v02.n134
Daniel Normolle wrote:
>
> In case you have trouble choosing a record to play tomorrow, I post my
> list of favorite Ellington disks. Your mileage will certainly vary, as there
> is so much to choose from:
>
> Blanton-Webster Band
> Black, Brown & Beige
> Live at Fargo
> Small Ellington Units
> Such Sweet Thunder
> Back to Back
> Side by Side
> Ellington & Coleman Hawkins
> Ellington & Coltrane
> 1956 Newport Concert
> Far East Suite
> Ella's Ellington Songbook
> Money Jungle
> And His Mother Called Him Bill
> Great Paris Concert
> Duke's Big Four
> This One's for Blanton
>
> dpn
Here in New York, WKCR is in the middle of a NINE DAY Ellington
tribute!! So, needless to say , Ellington is in the air!!!!!!!
Happy Birthday Duke
- --
Steve Berger <http://home.earthlink.net/~aprilsound/>
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From: "Chin See Ming" <chinseeming@hotmail.com>
Subject: [JN] Favorite power supply hook up wire
Date: Wed, 05 Apr 2000 16:41:47 PDT
Source: Sound Digest Archive v02.n511
Hi Joes:
I'm canvassing what you favor for power supply hook up wire and what's
available in the market. This would be for a preamp I'm putting together.
Right now, my choices seem to be hardware store multistranded house wire
(audiophile approval questionable) and Cardas large gauge litz wire
(difficult to work with?).
Any ideas would be much appreciated. I am assuming that the typical
audiophile signal hookup wire (Kimber, XLO, silver teflon etc.) would not be
appropriate from a safety point of view.
Ming
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From: David Home <DHome@creo.com>
Subject: RE: [JN] Favorite power supply hook up wire
Date: Wed, 5 Apr 2000 23:05:05 -0700
Source: Sound Digest Archive v02.n511
I really like the Vampire Cast Copper wire from Michael Percy. Sounds good ,
6N purity I think and $0.15/ft for the 20 gauge size. Only drawback is that
it is enameled and is toughish to tin.
-----Original Message-----
From: Chin See Ming [mailto:chinseeming@hotmail.com]
Sent: Wednesday, April 05, 2000 4:42 PM
To: sound@lists.io.com
Subject: [JN] Favorite power supply hook up wire
Hi Joes:
I'm canvassing what you favor for power supply hook up wire and what's
available in the market. This would be for a preamp I'm putting together.
Right now, my choices seem to be hardware store multistranded house wire
(audiophile approval questionable) and Cardas large gauge litz wire
(difficult to work with?).
Any ideas would be much appreciated. I am assuming that the typical
audiophile signal hookup wire (Kimber, XLO, silver teflon etc.) would not be
appropriate from a safety point of view.
Ming
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From: Tim_Bailey@medibank.com.au
Subject: [JN] Re: Favourite recordings
Date: Fri, 11 Aug 2000 16:16:13 +1000
Source: Sound Digest Archive v02.n624
chiming in a bit late
I decided to work from home for a few days it's getting to be shitfight here as
we approach the deathknell of Medibank Private Ltd, as it was. 25th August
Early music
the red book of monserrat - Jordi Savall
The art of courtly love - David Munrow
Medieval and renaissance instruments _ " ".
Baroque
Bach; A musical offering - the Leonhardt Consort
Montiverdi - Hyperion LP with Emma Kirkby and Rooley et al.
Bach: Mass in B Minor - Leonhardt, on HMu
Telemann- the Paris quartets - Bruggen (Teldec?)
Bach: Barndenburgs - Leonhardt Consort (RCA Seon)
Bach; Christams oratorio - HMu with the Tolz Boys Choir &Collegium Aureum (has
been reissued on CD).
Roccoco
CPE Bach - hamburg symphonies. Coll. Aur. HMU
CPE bach - keyboard music Leonhardt, Fp/harps/Clavichord. (double LP RCA Seon
?)
Classical:
on two Accent Lp's - Haydn -Cello/flute violin trios as published by Haydn -
(oiginally Baryton trios) with The Kuijken brothers!
Wieland, Barthold and Sigiswald -"tout ensemble" sheer joy, alas no flashin'
white teeth and choreography.
[some of god's classical chillun' hab got riddum too! ]
Mozarts Wind Serenades with the Danzi Quintet HMu, my Lp's are back issues (by
Quintessence USA).
Romantic and later:
Berlioz and Colin Davix on Philips esp. 'the symphony fantastic'
Elgar's Enigma variations, Monteux and the LSO? On Decca, a bargain 'World of
the great classics' reissue, and dead quiet for its age. That hall in London,
wow what a performance and from a Frenchman as well! [great bass extension test
rumble rumble from the underground!]
Jazz etc
Blossom dearie in melbourne esp. "I owe it all to my attorney bernie"
Ella and Satchmo doing 'porgy and bess songs' on Verve
her Duke Ellington Verve double LP..
An LP called 'The Gifted Ones', Ray brown, Dizzie and 'someone else' on piano!
A friend taped it for me on his Nak, now runs on my Nak.
Rock and roll
Stones
"get yer yayh yahs out"
"exile on main street"
"let it bleed"
Little feat
"little feat"
"waiting for columbus" on MFSL Superdisc vinyl.
Warmest
tim B
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From: "Aaron Bohnen" <bohnen@unixg.ubc.ca>
Subject: [JN] FA: Wharfedale Denton 2 bookshelf speakers on Ebay...
Date: Sat, 30 Oct 1999 14:33:11 -0700
Source: Sound Digest Archive v02.n318
Hi everyone,
I just wanted to mention that in my continuing efforts to lighten my
audio load I am auctioning off a very nice little pair of classic
Wharfedale Denton 2 bookshelf speakers. Nice teak-veneered cabinets, 8"
cast woofers, 2" tweeters, good grilles, good binding posts, etc. etc.
If interested please have a look at:
http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=191122852
best regards to all and many thanks for the bandwidth,
Aaron
p.s. - I'm still trying to find a new home for an EV 12TRXB in fantastic
shape and a Goodmans Audiom 81 15" woofer.
___________________________________________________________
Aaron Bohnen email: bohnen@unixg.ubc.ca
- -Ph.D. Student, Civil Engineering Department, U.B.C.
- -website: http://www.civil.ubc.ca/home/bohnen
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From: TubeGarden@aol.com
Subject: [JN] FB and Beyond
Date: Wed, 22 Mar 2000 09:43:48 EST
Source: Sound Digest Archive v02.n490
Greets Jeets Neets!
My little one stage amp now has three intentional forms of feedback:
1. Degenerative, on the unbypassed portion (half) of the cathode resistors.
2. UL, from the CT of the OPT to the screen.
3. Positive, from above a 0.5 ohm resistor in the negative return wire of the
speaker, to the cathode.
_____
When I listen with my ears to real systems, I do not hear what my Teflon mind
expects. Often, it persuades me not to try something because it 'knows'
better.
I love my ears!
I hate my mind, sometimes.
Happy Ears!
Al B^}
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From: "P. de R. L." <triode@bow-tie.org.uk>
Subject: Re: [JN] FB and Beyond
Date: Wed, 22 Mar 2000 18:43:05 -0000
Source: Sound Digest Archive v02.n491
What a nice message!
Paul
- ----- Original Message -----
From: <TubeGarden@aol.com>
To: <sound@io.com>
Sent: Wednesday, March 22, 2000 2:43 PM
Subject: [JN] FB and Beyond
>
> Greets Jeets Neets!
>
> My little one stage amp now has three intentional forms of feedback:
>
> 1. Degenerative, on the unbypassed portion (half) of the cathode
resistors.
>
> 2. UL, from the CT of the OPT to the screen.
>
> 3. Positive, from above a 0.5 ohm resistor in the negative return wire of
the
> speaker, to the cathode.
>
> _____
>
> When I listen with my ears to real systems, I do not hear what my Teflon
mind
> expects. Often, it persuades me not to try something because it 'knows'
> better.
>
> I love my ears!
>
> I hate my mind, sometimes.
>
> Happy Ears!
> Al B^}
>
>
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From: Ishmael349@aol.com
Subject: Re: [JN] F&B grounds
Date: Tue, 1 Aug 2000 00:04:25 EDT
Source: Sound Digest Archive v02.n615
Dear Eric,
Absolutely, I'll look at your photos and send you a recording of my
observations. Just remember, I haven't built any amps in a few years. I am
however scheduled to build two in the next few months as I have two new
customers and need cash. You also have to remember two things: First - when
I was building amps, I was doing it 8-10 hours/day for almost five years. I
built more than 100. And at least two dozen preamps. Which means I lost a
lot of sleep and cried a lot of tears over parasitic oscillations. J.C.
always told me, "Welcome to the next level." Second - I have J.C. Morrison,
Kumoro, and Tommy Cadawas on my team. And on occasion, I enlisted the
services of the likes of Dick Sequera and John Curl. So I always had someone
to bail me out when I got in a jam. Sounds like you need a friend. I didn't
design an exceptional amplifier because I know a lot about electronics. My
amp is good because I have good taste. You have to know what your looking
for if your going to find it. I had a group of musical criteria and I did an
unbelievable amount of trial and error to get what I wanted. I spent four
years perfecting the Flesh & Blood and then sent it on a world tour to get
outside opinions. The only things I understand pretty good are filter theory
and maybe electro-magnetics. That being said, all audio should be built to
RF standards of grounding. I dodn't use point to point. I put all the parts
on 2" wide "tag strips" and used a star ground at the lowest signal point the
cathod of the input/voltage amplifier stage. This is where all grounds
should connect to the chassis. Try to keep all star ground wires nearly the
same length. Ground the heaters at this socket. I bend the heater ground
tab down at the 6SN7 socket and solder it directly to the copper ground
plane. And I put the 47,000uf cap on the 6SN7 tube socket. Try that. Or,
fasten (solder?) the copper RCA input jack directly to the copper (1/8"
thick) ground plane and use that as your star ground point. Send the photos
to Herbert Reichert, PO Box 50094, Staten Island, NY 10305. I'll reply on
mini-disc OK?
Good luck,
Herb
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From: evaguido <EvaGuido@iaehv.nl>
Subject: Re: [JN] F&B grounds
Date: Tue, 01 Aug 2000 23:26:11 +0200
Source: Sound Digest Archive v02.n616
dear Herb,
A star ground in my opinion is not a favourite sollution, as it
automatically leads to big loops (though it might work for low frequencies).
I wil present a short tutorial in Arhus, outlining a supply decoupling
concept.
Lateron, once there is some more time, I will rewrite that tutorial and
make it an article.
The concept is based on keeping currents local and minimising AC currents
throught the ground connection.
Once it is ready I'll put it somewere on the internet.
best regards
Guido
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From: "Hugh R Dean" <aspen@alphalink.com.au>
Subject: Re: [JN] F&B grounds
Date: Thu, 3 Aug 2000 07:50:35 +1000
Source: Sound Digest Archive v02.n616
Hi Guido,
You wrote this:
> A star ground in my opinion is not a favourite sollution, as it
> automatically leads to big loops (though it might work for low
frequencies).
>
> I wil present a short tutorial in Arhus, outlining a supply decoupling
> concept.
>
> Lateron, once there is some more time, I will rewrite that tutorial and
> make it an article.
This really caught my eye, because the importance of low noise floors is
crucial to proper performance and perception of dynamics. You really notice
this when the power supply uses quite diodes - particularly with sand
amplifiers.
Guido, I am particularly interested in this stuff because once any design is
fleshed out and built, earthing is usually the very last thing considered,
often forcing star earthing. I deeply regret not being at Arhus for your
presentation, and if you have any notes or ppt slides, please - please - put
me on your distribution. I could really learn from you!
Cheers,
Hugh R. Dean
Printed Electronics
Melbourne, Australia
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From: "PEARL Cust Serv" <custserv@pearl-hifi.com>
Subject: [JN] F/B & Phase Distortion, was - Worlds Cheapest OPT
Date: Mon, 05 Jun 2000 23:05:49 -0600
Source: Sound Digest Archive v02.n567
Hi, tube@jump.net wrote
> . . . . .but suffice it to say that Matti Otala
> proved many years ago that feedback absolutely cannot make distortions
> go away, it can only transform amplitude distortions into phase
> distortions.
Can you provide references here?
This is VERY interesting particularly since I just dreamed up a way of
measuring the phase of individual harmonic components as a function of both
swept frequency and stepped amplitude.
I've been wanting to do this for years and some recent hard study of
Richard Heyser finally booted me in the a** to think this thru.
So, Otala's work is very relevant at this point in my investigations,
particularly in view of the work I watched Meinter do a few years ago wrt
the audibility of jitter in digital circuitry. This is, after all, an
uncommonly pernicious form of phase distortion.
Tia . . . .
Best regards,
Bill - PEARL, Inc.
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From: "Dave Slagle" <dslagle@earthlink.net>
Subject: [JN] fc, meissner and other old stuff
Date: Sun, 21 May 2000 21:19:51 -0400
Source: Sound Digest Archive v02.n554
hey all.
i uploaded a page from the past to:
http://albums.photopoint.com/j/View?u=37049&a=237580&p=21498184&Sequence=0
its a bit weird to access... but give it a try... save it and print it
out... there is really a lot of stuff there....
field coils as chokes
the CT opposing choke of diagram C.... won't the dc cancel through the
opposing chokes on a common core? leaving the core to deal with the ac job
at hand...?? this one... in conjuntion with a phone call with a fellow joe
really has me thinking
the meissner pay per use supply of the 30's... note that the whole filter is
in the ground leg... very interesting... oh to be a fly on the wall of any
of these pre 30's thoughts... all we can do now is look back, study and
guess...
dave
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From: Dan Marshall <mdaniel7@uswest.net>
Subject: [JN] FD 78s
Date: Sun, 29 Apr 2001 11:39:15 +0000
Source: Sound Digest Archive v02.n876
Hi All,
I seem to recall some time back that some were interested in 78 rpm
records. I have a fair number in which I have no interest. If anyone
is interested, let me know and I will compose a list. They are mainly
classical.
Dan Marshall
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From: Tim_Bailey@medibank.com.au
Subject: Re: [JN] Fe 103's and V incarnation's.
Date: Mon, 24 Jan 2000 12:22:31 +1100
Source: Sound Digest Archive v02.n414
additional post re Fe 103's
Hi nick,
I have seven of these 4 0riginal cream cone brown surround jobs from the late
1970's plus 3 black cone ones from a MO/retail house here in Aus. they were a
disposal lot so that's it for now from them. The later ones were made in korea
but match physically ie externally. I also have two Taiwanese drivers with a
bigger magnet and claiming similar perf.
I have an article about putting the Fe 103, along with a choke based network, in
a v small ib box ,it was in one of the US's electroinics mags way back.
What are yr measured numbers for the FE103 cf the specs published by Fostex
(fromEiFL's site). I too have often thought about 'doing the dipole dance' with
an array of Fe103's. I even remember a 'phone rave to Allen wright about this
when he was still here in OZ, back in the 80's. Shades of a scrounger's
Porzilli array, but as a dipole. How many would you need to start getting real
sensitivity gains for tube amps (with 4/8/16 taps)?
Two of mine are in little very thick walled reflex boxes and have a network
using caps and resistors across the terminals, but no L. They run off a 4 ohm
baby pp bandpass sunwoofer, but i think nominall 4 ohm spkrs would match better
at the pasiive crossover point.
If I were using two Fe13's each in parallel, (4 ohms nominal) perhaps in one
of my two smaller 'spheres (Model 2's) what should I do to the values in th
network ie caps and resistors? I will send a diagram asap as yr answer will
prob depend on whether the caps and resistor are in series or parallel with each
other. (???)
I am also going to build a pr of rear spkrs soon for our little family room
'home theatre' and will use four salvaged cone tweeters, two per box wired out
of phase and crossed over as low as possible, to get pseudo dipole / 'diffuse'
effects. Angled facets for the tweeters, with one wide range 3-4inch on the
center baffle. I'll probably use the 'not-fosters' there.
[why????
well, I've recently obtained a s/h LuX home-theatre centre / add-on amp. I've
had it serviced, and a loop added, so that I can run a delay from, and then back
to, the main LRoom system. In the LRoom I'm going to use several small spkrs
dist'd around the room at a low spl and on delay. I'll use series-parallel
connections. Each ambience / 'incoherent' spkr will sit at the floor/wall
corner, facing up the wall at a 60 degree included angle. At first I'll just be
using several different salvaged 8 ohm drivers, but in the same type of angled
box. NB there was an article about this approach in spkr bldr ages back.]
If I can get some more FE103's, through Tandy here, or via the US, I will.
Tim B
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From: Tim_Bailey@medibank.com.au
Subject: Re: [JN] Fe 103's and V incarnation's.
Date: Tue, 25 Jan 2000 09